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  1. #61
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    Re: One for the little guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by tmckenzie View Post
    Impersonally do not like independent stave barrels. We use McGinnis. Nothing but 53 gallon number 4 char, and here is the big deal, all of the wood is seasoned 36 months.
    Same here on the seasoning. It makes a huge difference.

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    Re: One for the little guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Balcones Winston View Post
    Same here on the seasoning. It makes a huge difference.
    you all actually by wine barrels though right? But charred.

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    Re: One for the little guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by tmckenzie View Post
    you all actually by wine barrels though right? But charred.
    Tom, is there a difference between the construction of a wine barrel, and the construction of a whiskey barrel? In the McGinnis video I watched, they were segregating the freshly cut staves into piles for each type. I inferred, maybe incorrectly, that the wood selected for wine barrels was superior in some way? Are there characteristics of each that are better for one, or the other?
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    Re: One for the little guys!

    Wood for wine barrels are usually 36 month air died. But wine barrels are normally 63 gallons. They sand them up nice and charge at last i checked, about 900 bucks a piece. Where a nice bourbon barrel of the same wood, charred, 135.

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    Re: One for the little guys!

    Of course a wine barrel will be reused vintage after vintage and with proper maintenance can last 50 years or more.
    We're Bourbon Geeks, it's who we are, it's what we do.

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    Re: One for the little guys!

    Drinking a McKenzie Rye 5/2011. I'll be searching for a bottle at retail. Great stuff.

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    Re: One for the little guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by squire View Post
    Of course a wine barrel will be reused vintage after vintage and with proper maintenance can last 50 years or more.
    Interesting. I did a little winery touring in Napa last week (business trip, rough life, let me tell you) and one of the winerys bragged that they only used their barrels once. Of course this was also one of the snootier ones who wanted to put a lien on your house for a glass.

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    Re: One for the little guys!

    Yes, and those who've been in business for many years will brag about how good the old barrels work, just depends to some extent on what you're selling I suppose.
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    Re: One for the little guys!

    In regards to wine, a winery typically has a barrel program and, depending on what profile the winemaker is aiming for, will use a combination of new and used barrels of varying ages. Using all new wine barrels for a particular wine would be unusual and the oakiness would tend to overpower the juice. After about about 5-6 years re-use, a wine barrel doesn't have much more flavor to impart and is considered neutral.

 

 

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