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  1. #1
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    What's With Buffalo Trace?

    I keep reading these posts. People in many locations say more or less the same thing. "We have run out of Weller Antique, Weller 12, and Elmer T. Lee. No one knows when we'll see it again." Yes, I realize Mr. Lee recently passed away. That doesn't explain everything else. The BT products I see locally are: Buffalo Trace Bourbon, Weller SR, and some of the Colonel EHTs.

  2. #2
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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    With the Wellers, I think it is an issue with stocks. With ETL, I think it's an issue of not knowing how, just yet, to keep the brand output going since the guy who selected the barrels for it is no longer with us. I imagine they'll figure out something soon on the ETL, since its now known that they applied for a new label for it.

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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    At least to some extent, they are facing a huge demand. And of course, do not have unlimited supply, and can't just "whip up some more" for the marketplace on demand. Bourbon is booming--it's just the reality.

    And BT has some very popular brands--BT, ER 10, ETL, the Wellers, Blanton's, etc. I believe ETL has been even more popular since Mr. Lee's passing. Maybe they've spread themselves too thin--I don't know, but do they really need the EHT Small Batch when they have BT, ER 10 and ETL? Stagg Jr. is clearly taking stocks away from other offerings, but BT is probably smiling all the way to the bank with that release.

    Not sure exactly what is going on, but it ain't pretty. I am hedging by keeping a few bottles of each of the BT staples on hand, mostly single barrel selects.

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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    They announced nearly six months ago that they would be facing major shortages of about all of their core brands. They just have a huge supply/demand mismatch at this time.

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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    I believe Mark Brown says they have 1,000,000 barrels aging, but are 100,000 barrels "short". That's what, something like 5 full rickhouses?
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  6. #6
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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    To some extent, they are feeling the pain of success. They have a lot of labels to fill and in all honesty, in contrast to HH, their pours are probably held in higher regard than all the HH labels. Not saying one is better than the other, but BT doesn't have many bottom shelf brands. That's a lot of "high end" bourbon to churn out.

    With the Pappy craze and the secret on Weller is out. Even you're basic liquor stores are steering people towards it not as a replacement, but as a consolation prize.

    Like Blantons, try AAA 10.

    Want something special, pick your own, BT, Blantons or Eagle Rare.

    It won't surprise me to see some more brand consolidation out of BT to keep product on the shelf. I also expect to see higher prices. Whether you agree or not that the juice is high end, their brands are associated with high end.

    Hunker down, here comes the eye of the storm.

    What really speaks volumes to me is the CEHT line has just stopped. For awhile everyone was saying here is their experimental line to test pricing. We haven't had a new CHET in a long while after being barraged with several releases.
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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    BT 1.75 was 25 bucks 1/2013...it is now 46.

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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanc View Post
    BT 1.75 was 25 bucks 1/2013...it is now 46.
    If it was that price in AZ last year, I would be in a coma right now.

    It had been around $42ish for a handle out here for a couple years ($22 for the 750ml), haven't checked lately though.

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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    I occasionally see it for $39.99 in the Indy area but typically in the low $40s now.

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    Re: What's With Buffalo Trace?

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanc View Post
    BT 1.75 was 25 bucks 1/2013...it is now 46.
    It must have been on sale or they got a deal on it. It's regularly ~$20 for 750 around here.
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