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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    i figure if scotch wasnt aged in used bourbon barrels, that it would be even more undrinkable

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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Quote Originally Posted by Danger View Post
    Surely some amazing products would show up if this were allowed. Used barrels are how the best scotch gets produced, right?
    That's right and it's been that way for a couple hundred years now.
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Quote Originally Posted by sutton View Post
    Ever had Greenore 15 yo? I would love to see some of the bourbon/rye mashbills aged out 15-20 yrs in used cooperage. I am also surprised someone hasn't tried this (or perhaps they have, and the results aren't worth the price they'd have to charge to hold onto the stock that long?) Maybe try it on the first floor of the rickhouse?
    I suppose Greenore is a bit like current American corn whiskey aged for 15 years, probably at a lower level in the rickhouse as you suggest given the relatively cooler environment in Ireland. Personally I like the 15 and agree that it would be interesting to see what would happen to typical bourbon or rye mashbills aged that long in used barrels. Greenore 8, while much easier to find, is much less interesting to me though suggesting it would indeed to take a longer time in used barrels to get an interesting product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 393foureyedfox View Post
    i figure if scotch wasnt aged in used bourbon barrels, that it would be even more undrinkable
    Not entirely true... some of the Single Malt producers have been experimenting with virgin oak casks (E.g. Glenmorangie Ealanta & Benriach Virgin Oak) with some promising results.

    Quote Originally Posted by squire View Post
    That's right and it's been that way for a couple hundred years now.
    There's also used mizurana oak, cognac/armagnac/calvados, rum and all the fortified wine barrels/casks/butts/etc., (port, madeira, sherry) - AE is one notable NDP that has been making some use of these.

    I'm personally very keen to taste the results of these experiments.
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Mellow corn I am told has a mash bill of 90 corn, 5 rye, 5 malt.

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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Quote Originally Posted by tanstaafl2 View Post
    Didn't we get something like this with the largely panned Woodford Master's Collection rye set? I think there was some real potential here if they had only let it spend more time in the barrel. I don't know what the age of this whiskey set was but it was probably not long enough.

    I am not even sure if that rye whiskey was all Woodford produced and of course the mashbill is also a mystery. As discussed in another thread this seems like the kind of thing that really should make the full details of the distillate public rather than keep it a secret. Not like anybody else is likely to make a similar product after all.
    Yeh i tried this set at a recent tasting, not very impressive, from memory i think the ambassador said they were four years old? Could be wrong though.
    Also had a taste of Woodfords new make at about 130proof, to be honest I preffered this to either of the ryes.

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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Quote Originally Posted by tmckenzie View Post
    Mellow corn I am told has a mash bill of 90 corn, 5 rye, 5 malt.
    Tom can you detect the rye when tasting Mellow Corn?
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    New vs Used barrels

    Quote Originally Posted by sutton View Post
    Ever had Greenore 15 yo? I would love to see some of the bourbon/rye mashbills aged out 15-20 yrs in used cooperage. I am also surprised someone hasn't tried this (or perhaps they have, and the results aren't worth the price they'd have to charge to hold onto the stock that long?) Maybe try it on the first floor of the rickhouse?
    Hirsch currently has a 20 year American Whiskey aged in used cooperage.


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    New vs Used barrels

    One of my dream hypotheticals is a BT/ER juice brought to straight bourbon standards then re-barreled in sherry butts for an additional 8+ years. Make it happen BTEC!

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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Quote Originally Posted by jaycamm View Post
    Hirsch currently has a 20 year American Whiskey aged in used cooperage.


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    Indeed they do, and it was a Bourbon mashbill distilled at the old Hiram Walker plant in Peoria. It was a stash of lost barrels that were never intended to age that long, but it's a fascinating Whiskey. A touch sweet, but really resiny on the finish.

 

 

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