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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    That's a good thought Paul and yes, we do have Mellow Corn available here. Unfortunately it's recipe lacks wheat or rye which remove it from the traditional Bourbon flavor profile. Does show the efficacy of used barrels though.
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    There are many members here who love the ultra aged ryes, but they also talk of the wood influence after 20 plus years. Usually very prominent, but the love of these ryes are apparent. ..

    The HW 21yr rye was aged in used barrels. I've enjoyed one bottle, a truly outstanding pour. And to my palate, no wood influence at all. So in this case, I can certainly see the merit of using used barrels( as in eliminating the wood taste in ultra aging)
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Didn't we get something like this with the largely panned Woodford Master's Collection rye set? I think there was some real potential here if they had only let it spend more time in the barrel. I don't know what the age of this whiskey set was but it was probably not long enough.

    I am not even sure if that rye whiskey was all Woodford produced and of course the mashbill is also a mystery. As discussed in another thread this seems like the kind of thing that really should make the full details of the distillate public rather than keep it a secret. Not like anybody else is likely to make a similar product after all.
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Hell, if anybody tried to copy the recipe different stills and aging conditions would make a different product and even then it wouldn't be ready to sell it for years.
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Mellow Corn is not 100% corn. Pretty sure it contains some rye. Not a lot, but some.
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Ack, you're right Josh, I should have edited that post more carefully. What I meant to say is the Mellow Corn mash bill contains no wheat and only about 1/2 the rye (around 7%) found in traditional Bourbon recipes. I need to get another bottle because further tasting is required.
    Last edited by squire; 08-25-2013 at 17:02.
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    There's not a huge cost savings in the barrel itself right now, as used barrels are not as easy to find or as cheap anymore. Maybe you wouldn't lose as much juice as quickly, but I don't see it being a huge cost changer.

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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Ever had Greenore 15 yo? I would love to see some of the bourbon/rye mashbills aged out 15-20 yrs in used cooperage. I am also surprised someone hasn't tried this (or perhaps they have, and the results aren't worth the price they'd have to charge to hold onto the stock that long?) Maybe try it on the first floor of the rickhouse?
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    For a lot of years now (over a century I expect) the Canadians have been making Bourbon style flavoring whiskys and aging them in used cooperage. No telling what might come out of the woodwork when the price gets right.
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    Re: New vs Used barrels

    Surely some amazing products would show up if this were allowed. Used barrels are how the best scotch gets produced, right?

 

 

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