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    Post Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    Quote Originally Posted by theglobalguy View Post
    Are there high quality hobby barrels out there? Or all cheap and cheerful kind.
    Well, if you had a wood source I don't think it would be impossible to find a maker that will do a custom one for you
    Last edited by Balcones Winston; 09-13-2013 at 21:51.

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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    I have a friend who is doing some delicious aging/finishing with small one and two liter barrels. He has been using the same barrels for more than 8 or 9 years now and says they are getting better every refill. and weren't very good for the first few refills.
    Even considering standard 53 gal. size barrels, only a small percent of them make exceptional whiskey. The rest manage to create only average juice. I would imagine the same holds true for small barrels.

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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    Quote Originally Posted by sailor22 View Post
    I have a friend who is doing some delicious aging/finishing with small one and two liter barrels. He has been using the same barrels for more than 8 or 9 years now and says they are getting better every refill. and weren't very good for the first few refills.
    Probably thanks in part to the fact that all the negative aspects of the wood have been leeched out by now.
    Quote Originally Posted by sailor22 View Post
    Even considering standard 53 gal. size barrels, only a small percent of them make exceptional whiskey. The rest manage to create only average juice. I would imagine the same holds true for small barrels.
    If you're using poor quality cooperage, then yes, that is most likely true. I don't know of anyone in the bourbon industry that is using fully yard-aged wood.

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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    Quote Originally Posted by Balcones Winston View Post
    Important to realize that these small hobby barrels probably aren't constructed of the most high quality wood. And the increased surface contact will amplify the effect of cheap wood, hence the typical piney and harsh green flavors. If the wood was fully yard aged, I imagine we could make some good hobby whiskeys at home, but that would be pretty expensive.
    Many of these small barrels are made in Mexico. I bought mine from a guy here in town who buys them from Mexico. I went to the website and the pictures they display are identical to many I see on ebay.

    PS He did suggest I leave it outside for awhile and then soak in water for 24 hours before using. He also warned about leaving the barrel open while outside.
    Last edited by Enoch; 09-14-2013 at 13:49.

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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
    and then soak in water for 24 hours before using. He also warned about leaving the barrel open while outside.
    Probably so the staves don't shrink up and make the barrel leak

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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    That, or you'd pick up some airborne spoilage yeast/bacteria ,,,
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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    Quote Originally Posted by sutton View Post
    That, or you'd pick up some airborne spoilage yeast/bacteria ,,,
    I think that would be more of a concern if you were aging beer. Whiskey is pretty sterile stuff

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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    At my age I'll just buy it already aged.
    We're Bourbon Geeks, it's who we are, it's what we do.

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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    I picked up a couple of small barrels [2L ($40) and 5L ($65.00)] from Independent Stave Company's plant in Lebanon, KY. Visited last Thursday. I've included a copy of their barrel prep procedures. IMAG0242.jpg
    Sto lat!!!

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    Re: Re-aging straight whiskey - charred cask

    Quote Originally Posted by bllygthrd View Post
    I picked up a couple of small barrels [2L ($40) and 5L ($65.00)] from Independent Stave Company's plant in Lebanon, KY. Visited last Thursday. I've included a copy of their barrel prep procedures. IMAG0242.jpg
    Nice! Are they using the same type of wood (yard aged) as they do for the larger barrels? Do they offer different char levels? That seems like better pricing than some of the places on-line (and from what I would consider a pretty damn reputable source!)
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