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    White Oak

    I heard from my local store that there is a shortage of new White Oak barrels and this will drive up prices; any truth on this?

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    Re: White Oak

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluffhunter View Post
    I heard from my local store that there is a shortage of new White Oak barrels and this will drive up prices; any truth on this?
    Don't believe much of what comes out of your local store unless it's one of the few big players in the business. There was a blurb on Shanken and then a follow up report on Louisville TV station WHAS. It was specific to Independent Stave and Four Roses slowing down production due to barrel shortages from weather related tree harvesting problems. Remember too that anything being barreled now isn't coming out for at least 2 and more probably a minimum of 4 years.

    http://www.whas11.com/news/Kentucky-...235148981.html
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    Re: White Oak

    I must be missing something - does Independent Stave age the wood after harvested, or is it immediately kiln-dried and sent into the barrel production process? Even if that were the case, for some temporary harvesting constraints to immediately affect barrel production would mean they run pretty lean raw material inventory stocks. Maybe that is so ...
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    Re: White Oak

    I don't think we're facing a barrel shortage but it makes a good story.
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    I heard that people were lining up to get the few allocated new barrels and then there was a fist fight in the parking lot. People started reselling for double on craigslist and the barrel fever went even higher when word got out someone smuggled barrels from the warehouse. You know these are the last remaining superb barrels and new production won't be as good, so if you don't get yours now....

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    Re: White Oak

    My understanding is that air-dried lumber for barrel making is rather more expensive (since it takes so much longer, though many feel it makes better barrels for aging Bourbon). However, the making of barrels from kiln-dried lumber is considerably easier to schedule since the makers have control of the readiness of the wood, and can predict inventories, and match such with production schedules.
    Just my take from what I've heard and read.

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    Re: White Oak

    So, they don't have the good stuff because of the barrel shortage but have a shelf full of these NEW brands.
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    Re: White Oak

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluffhunter View Post
    I heard from my local store that there is a shortage of new White Oak barrels and this will drive up prices; any truth on this?
    Assuming a new barrel costs about $250 and, after the angels' share, yields about 250 bottles the barrel portion of the price of bourbon is about a buck. (Yes, I know there is much less bourbon after 18 years than after 6.) If new barrels doubled in price, that would still represent a relatively small portion of the total cost. Considering the enormous contribution of charred new oak barrels to the beauty of a great bourbon, even this cheap old geezer thinks it's still a bargain. (Just don't interpret that as permission to raise prices.)
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    Re: White Oak

    Quote Originally Posted by squire View Post
    So, they don't have the good stuff because of the barrel shortage but have a shelf full of these NEW brands.
    maybe the lesser brands are reusing the barrels.....

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    Re: White Oak

    Quote Originally Posted by 393foureyedfox View Post
    maybe the lesser brands are reusing the barrels.....
    That would be scandalous (and illegal) if sold as bourbon out of used cooperage.
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