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  1. #701
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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    Actually I think Bruce's doubts were justified. Look at the opening words:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/5.35

    I take this to mean that where a spirit is of a defined class, the class must be stated. For example, if Jack Daniel is truly bourbon, you have to say so on the label. But the company presumably takes the view it is not bourbon, a view I share for what it is worth, and therefore the label reads "whiskey".

    I have reason to believe that in practice, but we have seen apparent instances in numerous contexts, labeling doesn't always hew to this standard.

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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    See also Section 5.32(a)(2):

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/5.32

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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    Gary my take on all this is simple:

    a) You can make a straight whisky and label it 'Corn Likker' if you like.

    b) You can't label what you make as 'Straight Whisky' unless it meets the requirements.
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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by squire View Post
    Gary my take on all this is simple:

    a) You can make a straight whisky and label it 'Corn Likker' if you like.

    b) You can't label what you make as 'Straight Whisky' unless it meets the requirements.
    But you can make a 70 proof root-beer flavored whiskey and label it Bottled in Bond!
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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    I'm saying that's what the law says. I didn't say TTB is infallible.

    Some years back during tax season a Congressional Sub Committee had a group of staffers call the IRS 1-800 helpline posing as individual taxpayers with routine questions about filling a tax return. 55% of the answers given out by the IRS employees were wrong.
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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    Viz. your point A, I don't agree, due to the language I referred to in my last two posts. As to TTB, I cannot say how they interpret it, I'm just reading the language. I wonder what Chuck C thinks, not sure if he's reading this thread.

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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    Two lawyers disagreeing over the interpretation of a point of law . . . who would've thought.
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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    Enjoying a nice, unpretentious pour of Ritt BIB
    Gary
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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    Thought about waiting to crack this one, but f*** it. Yummy


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    Re: What rye are you drinking Fall 2013/Winter 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by bingstein View Post
    Thought about waiting to crack this one, but f*** it. Yummy


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    Good man, any tasting notes appreciated. I have sampled the 24/110 (thanks to a certain SBer) and loved it. Have to say I prefer the full proof versions (Rathskeller, Doug Phillips etc) but the Japanese versions are stellar in their own right.
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