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I would think so, but I've never tried the two blind, SBS.
Baby wipes aren't as good now as they used to be. Once the old Johnson & Johnson plant closed they changed the formula and now they are thin and harsher on the entry. BUT if you can find some packages without a SKU and in the old foil.....heaven.
"Sip it and say there is no solace for the soul, no tonic for the body like old Bourbon whiskey"-Joshua Soule Smith
I think the comparison between High West and Medley is more than a bit of a stretch. The story with High West is that they came out of the gate fudging their story and leading people to believe they made Rendezvous. They got called on it and changed their tone immediately. Good for them. I think everyone now understands what High West does and that's the point. The whole "Potemkin Distillery" thing represented a particular moment in the evolution of the young micro-distiller and micro-producer movement. These days, David Perkins says he cares very much about what he distills and wants to be known for that and I have had no reason to doubt him. What's said is said, and I don't take anything back, but I've got no issues with High West now.
Medley has never been anything other than straightforward about who they are and what they do, the family has a rich history, and Charles himself has a 50 year reputation in the industry. That means something to me, maybe not to everybody.
I used to be very tough on all NDPs. Now I mainly save my ire for people who I feel I can't trust (Templeton, Michter's), and I've indicated my respect for people like the Pogues and Zoellers (Jefferson's) who have managed to maintain high quality standards in the bottle despite the trials and tribulations of being an NDP today. Since so many micro-producers go for the young, undistinguished whiskey in a fancy bottle at an inflated price, I was glad to see Medley doing a high quality popular price whiskey in a nostalgic package. It's a different choice.
My attitudes about some things have changed and so have my relationships with some people. We learn, we grow...at least some of us do.
As for the people who just seem to want to hate on me, or at least prove that I have feet of clay, that's their problem.
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Easy to winnow the grain from the chaff here, but the chaff is pretty amusing, at times.
Didn't realize there was an attempt to deceive by HW, initially. Very interesting, seeing as how they're one of the most transparent NDPs out there now.
In fairness to them, it may even have been more of a failure to give clear directions to the people who were doing publicity for them. They came out with this big burst of initial publicity, all over Utah media, about this new rye whiskey made in Utah, which of course was not. I'll even concede a possible overreaction on my part, after just having gone through the same sort of thing with Templeton, and both of them took the initial approach of coming down hard on me personally, directly and through their sock puppets, which didn't help matters. I'm not trying to open old wounds by going into this now, just trying to give people who weren't there some context. I don't harbor any hard feelings. It's water under the bridge. We've all moved on.
As for it being "none of our business." We have every right to ask. And if the Medley's choose not to tell us, we have every right not to buy their product.
Look, at the end of the day Cowdery raised lots of questions with his initial post, more than he answered. I questioned it, maybe a bit forcefully, but I never called him any names. I didn't call him an "idiot." When other members do such things, the mods are all over it. I don't expect that to happen here, but I like to point it out. And Chuck's a big boy, he can handle it, or so I assume.