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  1. #31
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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    I use private preserve which is $10 or so for a can with enough gas for 100+ bottles. I have no idea if it actually does anything though I do plan to open a new 2012 Stagg and compare it to an open 2012 Stagg. The opened one was cracked in last November and I've used private preserve from the start so we shall see.

    Quote Originally Posted by BourbonGuy View Post
    Does anyone use that canned compressed gas used to preserve open wine bottles? Assuming the bottle is 1/4 full and we do not plan to finish it soon, that might be and option. John Hansell mentioned it some time ago. John thought it might be a good idea.

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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    I keep my whiskey out of light as much as possible and out of extreme temperature and when I get down to the last 4 ounces I finish it quickly
    Bourbon only requires a glass.

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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    Quote Originally Posted by bjbronwyn View Post
    If I was you id grab the EWSB, you wont be disappointed. Im also not a big fan of the ERSB
    I also prefer the EW over the ER, full of flavour for a low proof whiskey

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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    Ok, so we are all in agreement, keep the bottle up right, out of direct sunlight, and not too warm to prevent corks exploding on their own, but what about humidity?

    I keep a lot of bottles in my basement where I run a dehumidifier pretty much nonstop. I donít run it because my basement is a ďdampĒ basement or anything, but the builder recommended we run one during the first year. Do I run the risk of destroying the corks by drying them out too much? I havenít noticed any levels changing in the unopened bottles, but Iíve also never paid much attention to them anyways.

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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    if I were planning on keeping something long term, as in a new unopened bottle, would there be any advantage to dipping the neck of the bottle in something like Maker's does? WFE's also seem to come already wax/rubber dipped. Any advantage to this, or is it just a pretty add-on for a bottle?

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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    Quote Originally Posted by 393foureyedfox View Post
    if I were planning on keeping something long term, as in a new unopened bottle, would there be any advantage to dipping the neck of the bottle in something like Maker's does? WFE's also seem to come already wax/rubber dipped. Any advantage to this, or is it just a pretty add-on for a bottle?
    Being NOBODY'S EXPERT, I offer this food for thought:
    Anytime you limit (or prevent) any exchange of air into-or-of your bottle you're probably doing a good thing to lengthen the shelf-life of the bottle. At least it makes sense to me. Now, others may offer another opinion about quality of the cork. ...Would the sealing prevent 'cork-damage'.... or enhance the effect of a 'bad-cork'? I have no idea; but it's a good question, eh?

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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    Not to be argumentative, but who's to say sealing it even tighter in an attempt to prevent oxidative degradation wouldn't result in other problems (reductive reactions)? I seem to remember in the early days of using twist offs instead of corks on white wines, some bottles actually became quite reductive producing all kinds of sulfur-based defective aromas: rotten eggs (H2S), onion, cabbage, etc. I believe some white wine production techniques were modified to adjust for this effect and you don't see it as much (or at all) in today's twist off capped wines.

    That said, is a wax seal functionally more airtight or more decorative? We are talking micro-ox here - it may look airtight, but I doubt it really is.
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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    I think the use of sealing wax was originally intended as a mark of authenticity as much as anything else, fortified wines from Maderia come to mind, as a seal or mark could be easily impressed into the hot wax.

    I don't believe any of us could live long enough to see our whisky go bad on it's own, it's very stable stuff. There's nothing we can do to prevent the cork from going bad if it's already infected but that will happen sooner rather than later. If the cork dries out or the seal is less than stellar the whisky will start to evaporate (winemakers call that ullage) and more oxygen will cause the contents to oxidize, changing the flavor somewhat, but the way to stop that is decant or drink it.
    We're Bourbon Geeks, it's who we are, it's what we do.

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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    Agree with squire, the changes are much more minute in whisky than wine - the wax might be good insurance for a bad cork but probably does not add much incremental benefit if you have a good cork and good storage conditions.
    Mark

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    Re: Bourbon Shelf Life / Storage

    Funny this topic was revisited recently as it falls into a recent question I have. I recently received my shipment of specialty bottle 2oz and 4oz boston rounds. I have been pouring either 2 or 4 ounces of each new bottle I open into one, and placing it away for the future.

    My only concern is the little white plastic seal that comes glued to the inside of the cap. I cant foresee this having an effect on the whiskey inside, although I am pouring each bottle completely full, so some might be in contact with the seal. What are your thoughts on the seals.

    EDIT: Never mind, It is the exact same seal that is on my Jim Beam Signature Craft 12 year bottle. If it is good enough for them, im sure its fine.
    Last edited by skidfive; 12-11-2013 at 12:16.

 

 

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