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    Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    Whistle Pig is coming out with a 12 (and 1/2 year) barrel strength rye. Suggested retail is $130-$150.

    http://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/the-boss-hog-2/

    It doesn't say whether its NCF. Hopefully it is...

    I'm a fan of the Alberta Ryes and loved the Jeff 10 NCF. This release should compete against Lock/Stock Rye. The price is high but I'm definitely intrigued by a barrel proof Alberta rye (hopefully NCF) and might grab a bottle in November.

    Thoughts?
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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    Sounds good. Put me down for a bottle.
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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    Justin, what did you think of the WP 11/111? I've never had it, thought that the WP10 was marginally better than the Jeff10 CF version, and lagged pretty far behind the NCF. I'm a bit leery of dropping that much coin on a Canadian rye, even if it is BP and NCF. I'm a fan of the style in general, I just want to hear a couple glowing reviews before I decide to take the plunge. But really, I guess there's only one way to find out

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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    Sorry guys but need to know the PRICE $$$ first before I can comment on anything. At $45 looks awesome. At $145 not awesome.
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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    Seems really pricey but that is not surprising for WhistlePig. The LS&B, while very good, seemed a stretch at $120+ and this would have to be even better to warrant the additional cost.

    That said, when I see it I will probably buy at least one being the liquor whore that I am! Although surprisingly I have managed to stay away from the WP11/111.

    And its hard to justify any of them with a couple of Jeff10 NCF still in the bunker.
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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    Quote Originally Posted by Wryguy View Post
    I'm a bit leery of dropping that much coin on a Canadian rye, even if it is BP and NCF.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazer View Post
    Sorry guys but need to know the PRICE $$$ first before I can comment on anything. At $45 looks awesome. At $145 not awesome.
    Yup.
    For perspective Alberta Premium put out a 30yo here in Canada for 50 bucks. Granted, it was watered down to 40% and most likely chill-filtered, but 30 years old!!!
    Bottom line, all indications suggest the whistlepig is basically the same distillate at one third the age. Until AP (or their owners Beam) gets their heads out of the sand and bottles a BP, NCF whisky themselves (instead of selling it to an NDP to re-package and mark-up several hundred %) I'm on the sidelines on Canadian whisky >$50.

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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    I don't think any iteration of WhistlePig was like that 30 year old unless the latter was a flavouring-style whiskey, but was it? This would seem unlikely and its price point wouldn't suggest it. E.g. CC 20 and 30 years old are not flavouring whiskeys, but basically the regular CC aged to a much older age, showing that is a lot of wood but relative neutrality of palate. CC 20 is still only about $50 here so similar in that sense.

    However, I never did get to try the AP 30.

    I feel caution must be exercised when people speak of "Alberta rye". The only rye from Alberta I've had that breaks the mold of regular Canadian whisky is this group that has largely been sold in the U.S. including Masterson's, WP and Jefferson. Some of it is now 12 years old and being released at that age. This stuff was aged in all-new charred barrels and meets the other requirements for straight U.S. rye. That is very different than the regular AP, say, which I believe in a blind tasting with other Canadian Whiskies of the usual type could not be picked out for its all-rye content. And this would be due to regular AP and all AP Canadian whisky I've had except for "the group" again being composed largely of whisky distilled to a very high proof to virtual neutrality.

    Incidentally, any of the group at 12-13 years old should be very good. There is a lot of "distillery" (waxy, slate-like) character in the 10's that would age very nicely I think over 2-3 years and probably even longer.

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    Last edited by Gillman; 10-31-2013 at 04:20.

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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    All excellent points Gary but one simple fact remains: "flavouring whisky", new vs old barrels, straight vs blend, etc the costs of production, storage, financing, etc do not add up to a difference of $50 for a 30yo vs >$100 for a 12yo.

    The simple fact is that the stuff being bottled by these American NDP's, existed and/or still exists INSIDE Canada. Therefore, if a Canadian distiller can put out a 30yo product for $50, they CAN and SHOULD bottle the product being sold to the NDPs themselves!!! Cut out the middleman, charge a (smaller) premium and still make higher margins.

    I suspect this is not happening because the large Canadian producers are owned by multinationals that do NOT want the Canadian products competing with their high-end "small batch"/single barrel/etc Bourbon/Rye products.

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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazer View Post
    Sorry guys but need to know the PRICE $$$ first before I can comment on anything. At $45 looks awesome. At $145 not awesome.
    Sorry again, I read the O.P. too fast and missed the part where he actually quoted the actual MSRP. My 145 was me guessing what would be the stupidest price they would want to charge for this, and there it is.
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    Re: Whistle Pig Boss-Hog

    If AP has enough 30 year old whisky to launch a brand then apparently they have unsold stock on hand. Perhaps they believe the NDPs can both move and set higher prices for the product.
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