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  1. #11
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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    I know I'm in the minority here, but the WT Rye does it for me more than the VWFRR. The VWFRR is enjoyable, but just comes across as confused - it can't decide if it's a bourbon or a rye whiskey when I sip it. An interesting pour, none the less.


    I agree VWFR rye has some bourbon-like elements, but do you really think it has anywhere near the body of a bourbon such that you could confuse it for a bourbon? I've never felt so.

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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    That's why I say it's "confused". It is bourbonesque enough that sometimes it tastes closer to bourbon than rye, other times it tastes like........VWFRR. Hard to explain, I guess.
    it's so different than WT Rye, and I am new to ryes, that I sometimes question it's rye whiskey labelling.

    Who knows, maybe I'm the one that's confused........


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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    That's why I say it's "confused". It is bourbonesque enough that sometimes it tastes closer to bourbon than rye, other times it tastes like........VWFRR. Hard to explain, I guess.
    it's so different than WT Rye, and I am new to ryes, that I sometimes question it's rye whiskey labelling.

    Who knows, maybe I'm the one that's confused........


    Have you tried the Saz rye? If not, you'll probably be even more confused 'cause it in turn is quite different from both WT and VWFR ryes. It does take a bit to figure them all out. WT, VWFR and Saz ryes are all always in my rotation, I like 'em all.

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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    Revisited this whiskey and I really like it. It is different than bourbon or WT Rye - almost in it's own class of whiskey. Wish I had bought more while it was available.


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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    Wish I had bought more while it was available.
    You may not be entirely out of luck, yet -- see the 12/29 posts here, including one from Julian:

    http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp:/...0&page=0#38683

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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    Love this whiskey, of course. But can I put in a good word for the packaging as well? A classic armagnac bottle shape. Which means that I have the following stretch of four bottles on display at the top-right corner of my bar:

    Castarede Bas-Armagnac 1939
    Castarede Bas-Armagnac 1950
    Castarede Bas-Armagnac XO
    VWFRR

    Four exquisite elixirs in nicely repetitive bottle shapes!

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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    Jake! Nice to see you in these parts. We've chatted a few times over on Robin's Board.

    Cheers,

    Dave

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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    David! Indeed we have. I guess I never got around to starting that cask beer list...grrrr. As you can tell from my sig, I suppose, I've gotten into the biz.

    (and I think that's enough thread drift for now?)

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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    As you can tell from my sig, I suppose, I've gotten into the biz.
    Congrats!

    (and I think that's enough thread drift for now?)
    Not quite. I gave up trying to compile cask information when only one out of 22 breweries I contacted even bothered to respond. Then I found Alex Hall's website: http://www.cask-ale.co.uk/us/statemenu.html and realized someone had already done what we were planning.

    Cheers,

    Dave

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    Re: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 years old

    I went to Delilah's the other night (maybe the greatest bar on the planet IMO) and intended on sampling as many different bourbons as possible (thank you CTA!). I started with Delilah's own bottling of ORVW 10 and then moved to some Old Commonwealth to see if I could detect any differences between these two 10 year old ORVWs. They were both superb and slightly different; I then moved to the VWFR Rye which really blew my mind. The nose was filled with tart sweetness and the palate impressed me with a minty pepper, cleanly refreshing taste. By the time the night was done I ordered 4 more of these because I just couldn't get enough. Each glass was so intriguing and deep. I've never had a whiskey drinking experience quite like this. I felt like I was reading an amazing book or philosophic treatise, the deeper I got the more rivetted I became to the drink. If a whiskey can be mystical, this is it. I hope the expected release this summer of this nectar is going as planned ...

 

 

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