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    New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    Sku posted this on twitter this morning. After recent discussions wondering if B/F would produce some rye after the distilling of Rittenhouse they did for HH, here's an answer.

    https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonlin...14156001000098
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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    Quote Originally Posted by flahute View Post
    Sku posted this on twitter this morning. After recent discussions wondering if B/F would produce some rye after the distilling of Rittenhouse they did for HH, here's an answer.

    https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonlin...14156001000098
    Interesting that it says distilled in Kentucky by not necessarily by Woodford. I presume that is to cover the fact that it is coming from B-F in Louisville. No age statement it would appear although that is hardly a surprise.
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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    Quote Originally Posted by tanstaafl2 View Post
    Interesting that it says distilled in Kentucky by not necessarily by Woodford. I presume that is to cover the fact that it is coming from B-F in Louisville. No age statement it would appear although that is hardly a surprise.
    One of the theories posited in the twitter discussion is that it comes from Early Times in Louisville.
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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    Well, at least it says "Straight" and, according to the COLA, would be 90.4 proof. It'd be "other" than OO or the Canadian ryes. I have no idear whether Woodford is capacity-restrained and could not produce its own rye but as Steve noted ET is certainly likely for this "Kentucky" distilled rye. I wonder what the price point for this will be - above or below the JD Rested Rye . . . Also, I don't recall whether B-F submitted a COLA for an "older" Rested Rye. Easy enough to search - as soon as I get my ponderous body off this couch . . .

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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    I vote for DSP 354 as the point of origin. Woodford is being promoted as a quality name and I believe B-F would proudly list that on the label if Woodford were the source.
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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    The label states: "produced by the Woodford Reserve Distillery". Is this in doubt?
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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    Quote Originally Posted by HighHorse View Post
    The label states: "produced by the Woodford Reserve Distillery". Is this in doubt?
    "Produced by" doesn't mean "distilled by." Woodford doesn't have enough capacity to fill all of their bourbon bottles without adding DSP 354 barrels into the vats, so they surely don't have the capacity to add a rye to the lineup there.
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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    Quote Originally Posted by amg View Post
    "Produced by" doesn't mean "distilled by." Woodford doesn't have enough capacity to fill all of their bourbon bottles without adding DSP 354 barrels into the vats, so they surely don't have the capacity to add a rye to the lineup there.
    I hear what you're saying. However, who's to say they don't add BF juice to the bourbon because they want to. It 's good juice. Also , on four trips there in past couple of years, i have never seen the pot stills operating. And who knows how much of this rye they have made? Finally, what else could 'producing' mean at that location?
    Not arguing .. Just posing the possibility. Will try to find out and hope others will.
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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    "The barrels that are used for this exceptional, hand-crafted rye whiskey have been specially selected by our master distiller."

    "Distilled, matured and bottled in Kentucky, our Straight Rye delivers the bold, spicy character that afficionados seek from our award-winning distillery, a Historic Landmark."

    Obfuscation.

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    Re: New Woodford Reserve rye on the way

    Quote Originally Posted by HighHorse View Post
    I hear what you're saying. However, who's to say they don't add BF juice to the bourbon because they want to. It 's good juice. Also , on four trips there in past couple of years, i have never seen the pot stills operating. And who knows how much of this rye they have made? Finally, what else could 'producing' mean at that location?
    Not arguing .. Just posing the possibility. Will try to find out and hope others will.
    Produced could certainly suggest, as is the case with many non distillers who use the term, that this is bottled at Woodford using the typical Woodford style bottle but not necessarily made by them. Maybe they have made enough rye at Woodford (there was the roundly denounced Woodford Masters Collection rye pairing in the 375ml bottles a couple of years back after all) to supply bottles or to supply part of the whiskey much the way the bourbon is a "mingling" of whiskey from Woodford and B-F in Louisville. Then again regular Woodford uses the same language. It doesn't say distilled at Woodford either as best I recall and has the same blurb about the barrels having been specially selected by the master distiller.

    I would guess at the very least it is not all made at Woodford and not sure any of it is. But I don't know because based on this label they are not telling and appear to be deliberately obfuscating the real source.

    Woodford is just the swankier name that allows them to try to charge more for it.
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