I received a Ri1 for x-mas, and planned on making Manhattans with it. Once I did, the drinks showed no Rye characteristics at all. Made a few versions, and the spirit was always lost. (And I make strong drinks.) I finally choked down the rest of the bottle by pouring it over ice. I guess it ended up working as a maintenance drink. I wish Suntory would hurry up and get here.