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    Rare Breed used to be better

    I read this in several places recently, and just now in the "Favorite Barrel Proof" thread, so I figured I would start a separate thread about this. Here's a quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by onemorepour View Post
    Give the WTRB a crack, especially if you already like the 101.
    Mind you I also agree that it used to be better, but its still very good.
    For those who say it "used to be" better, why is that? Is it because the current release (WT 03RB) is lower proof that the previous releases? Or did WT do something to the flavor? When did RB change from "better" to the current "not as good"?

    Here's the list of bottlings I collected from somewhere on this site (can't remember)...did the change from "better" to "not as good" happen all at once with a particular release? Or was it a gradual thing?

    I'm keeping an eye out for older releases...how far back do I need to look for when RB was "better"?

    1) W-T-01-91 (109.6 proof) First Issue
    2) W-T-02-91 (110 proof)
    3) W-T-01-93 (110.8 proof)
    4) W-T-03-93 (111.4 proof)
    5) W-T-03-94 (109.6 proof)
    6) W-T-01-95 (109 proof)
    7) W-T-02-95 (109 proof)
    8) W-T-01-96 (108.8 proof)
    9) W-T-01-97 (108.6 proof)
    10) W-T-01-99 (108.4 proof)
    11) WT 03RB (108.2 proof) current release

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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    In my opinion somewhere in the middle of the 03RB release. All of the earlier ones were quite good and even quite a few 03RBs although there was a drop off from the 99s.
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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    WT has raised their barrel entry proof which would explain some of the decline in quality.

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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    Quote Originally Posted by luther.r View Post
    WT has raised their barrel entry proof which would explain some of the decline in quality.
    Can you provide a link? I can't find anything about that on SB...TIA!

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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    If they changed their entry, wouldn't that mean they would have to go lower in the rickhouse to get barrels to make their 108.2 proof point?

    I have only had the 03b myself, but for 12 years now they have had the same release, that's either a very large stainless steel tub vatted 12 years ago, or they deliberately add barrels based on proof to match the 108.2, which may at times get in the way of matching flavor profiles? Maybe the ratio of 6 to 8 to 12 changes things as well. I would much prefer different batch numbers when they change the mix.

    Anyone know what WT's process for vatting the RB is?

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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    Quote Originally Posted by DrBob View Post
    If they changed their entry, wouldn't that mean they would have to go lower in the rickhouse to get barrels to make their 108.2 proof point?
    Maintaining the same proof point year after year certainly implies some engineering going on. Of course they can change the proof statement on the label anytime.
    Last edited by squire; 02-03-2014 at 11:08.
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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    Quote Originally Posted by DrBob View Post
    Anyone know what WT's process for vatting the RB is?
    They won't even tell us what their mash bill is.
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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    Not to get off topic but I was in a local store that had about 6 bottles of the prior label WT101 instead of the new label WT101 I see in all other stores. Is the older label WT101 that much better than the current, should I be snatching up these bottles?

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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluffhunter View Post
    Not to get off topic
    That is definitely off topic...

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    Re: Rare Breed used to be better

    Think of it as collateral research.
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