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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    Quote Originally Posted by jburlowski View Post
    If it's aged in used cooperage, how does it become straight rye whiskey?
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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    What has happened here with the last bottling is IMO simple. The whiskey was dumped from new charred barrels and held for a time in used bourbon barrels before bottling. Once it is straight rye, it is straight rye, the subsequent flavouring or wood treatment doesn't change the designation as we've seen for so many other products. It is confirmed here:

    http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/97881...-draws-scruti/

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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillman View Post
    What has happened here with the last bottling is IMO simple. The whiskey was dumped from new charred barrels and held for a time in used bourbon barrels before bottling. Once it is straight rye, it is straight rye, the subsequent flavouring or wood treatment doesn't change the designation as we've seen for so many other products. It is confirmed here:

    http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/97881...-draws-scruti/

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    Gary - yes that is the way the TTB interprets the rules (I happen to disagree). However the TTB also makes these Straight Whiskies include statement of 'Straight Bourbon finished in xyz Barrel'. So if Whistlepig Straight Rye is being aged in used bourbon barrels, it should be labeled Straight Rye finished in bourbon barrels.

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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    Presumably that's done at the distillery because the farm doesn't have the facilities. Wonder how widespread is this practice.
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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    Wade, it is labeled that, no? Doesn't the second color image posted early in the thread state that?

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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    I mean this image:

    http://www.straightbourbon.com/forum...roves-it/page3

    (I am talking about the second image in Bruce's post no. 19 in this thread).

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    Last edited by Gillman; 02-17-2014 at 19:25.

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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillman View Post
    What has happened here with the last bottling is IMO simple. The whiskey was dumped from new charred barrels and held for a time in used bourbon barrels before bottling. Once it is straight rye, it is straight rye, the subsequent flavouring or wood treatment doesn't change the designation as we've seen for so many other products. It is confirmed here:

    http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/97881...-draws-scruti/

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    Nice article you linked to Gary! Apparently the whiskey does indeed get to Vermont at some point as it appears to be getting bottled there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillman View Post
    I mean this image:

    http://www.straightbourbon.com/forum...roves-it/page3

    (I am talking about the second image in Bruce's post no. 19 in this thread).

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    Yes, the label definitely says that but only on some bottles of the original WP 10yo version as you can see from those pictures. I would have presumed it was just earlier bottles and newer ones include the bourbon barrel finish on the label. But I saw bottles that were delivered to a store as recently as October 2013 without it on the label sitting on a local store shelf and another store not far away that had the 10yo with the info on the label. Of course no way to know how long those bottles sat in the distributors warehouse I suppose.

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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    Right Bruce but I'd think (vagaries of distribution set aside) that the labels that refer to bourbon barrel finishing contain whiskey that did receive that treatment, whereas bottles that don't say that, did not. Presumably the bourbon barrel finishing thing was adopted later in other words. I only had WhistlePig a couple of times, from the earliest bottles, and it didn't taste bourbon-barrel finished, probably the company felt the whiskey would benefit from some softening so it is doing the treatment now.

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    Re: Whistlepig CEO is whiskey idiot and proves it

    Presumably that would be Beam barrels then, unless it was a Bourbon type flavoring whisky made by Beam in Canada.
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