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    Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10



    Hi everybody. It was Whistle Pig that got me interested in rye. Then I soon found many other ryes I preferred to the WP for far less money. But my tastes go round and round with rye, and I'm tiring of the smoothness of LDI/MGP lately. I find myself turning to the Pig again for its spicey boldness.

    I was surprised to find a bottle of Jefferson 10 rye at a local liquor store last night for $40. As many of you are probably aware, there is speculation that Jefferson 10 and Whistle Pig are from the same distillery, so I bought the Jefferson 10 for comparison.

    I tasted them side by side today. Neat. No ice. No water added.

    Given its substantially lower price, I was disappointed that Jefferson 10 does not measure up to Whistle Pig. I've never considered Whistle Pig a terribly complex rye, but it is more complex than the Jefferson 10. There is a subtle underlying sweetness to the Pig that Jefferson lacks. And although the Pig is 6 proof higher, it seems at least as smooth as Jefferson.

    That's not to say that Jefferson is bad, it's not. For a $40 it's not bad at all. If you're looking for 100% rye that is going to bring the heat, it's not a bad buy. For a spicey rye in this price range also consider Knob Creek which brings the heat but also has a nutty finish that Jefferson lacks.

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    The early bottles of Jeff 10 Rye were by all reports originally from the same source as the Pig (Alberta Distillers) although I don't know if anybody who knew for sure ever confirmed it. But the "Made in Canada" on the label of the Jeff Rye has long since disappeared and there is no definitive word about where it comes from currently. So depending on how old your bottle is it may well not be from Alberta Distillers or even Canada. Just as likely it is more of the MGP rye although at 10yo I suppose it is unlikely they would have a lot of that available unless they planned well in advance and bought it a long time ago.
    That yella whiskey runnin' down my throat like honey dew vine water and I took another slash…

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    My bottle doesn't say Made in Canada, but this doesn't taste like LDI to me. Guess it'll remain a mystery...

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    The only thing you can be sure of is that Jeffersons didn't make it.

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    That's funny. You know, I keep turning to it. I've drank quite a little bit of the Jeff 10 in the few days I've had it. In a side by side taste test it doesn't fair well for me, but something about it keeps drawing me in. Maybe that it's new and different for me and relatively inexpensive.

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    LDI didn't make it either. Point in fact no American distiller was making a 100% Rye 10 years ago whereas Alberta has been making it for a lot of years and in sufficient quantity to sell in bulk to others.
    We're Bourbon Geeks, it's who we are, it's what we do.

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    Quote Originally Posted by squire View Post
    LDI didn't make it either. Point in fact no American distiller was making a 100% Rye 10 years ago whereas Alberta has been making it for a lot of years and in sufficient quantity to sell in bulk to others.
    Problem is we have no idea what the mashbill is anymore. I certainly don't have sufficient confidence in Jefferson's to put a 100% rye mashbill in the bottle even if it says it is on the label. Especially not after the revelation of using rye bourbon in the JPS 17/18 that they advertised as being S-W wheated bourbon.
    That yella whiskey runnin' down my throat like honey dew vine water and I took another slash…

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    Good point. I should've added I don't know what Jefferson has in the bottle nor am I willing to take their word for it, rather if it is 100% rye Alberta is the probable source.
    We're Bourbon Geeks, it's who we are, it's what we do.

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    Good example of why Jefferson is frustrating.

    I got a bottle of the rye, and it was very nice, and I'd probably put it pretty high on list of bottled I've purchased. But its frustrating that the next bottle probably has no chance on being the same unless I happen to get very lucky.

    That combined with their fast and loose policies has kept me going back to SAOS.

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    Re: Whistle Pig vs Jefferson 10

    And my shelf price of $49 isn't very appealing either

 

 

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