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    Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    I've got a bunch of bottles lying around the collection that need to go. They're very new (about 2 years, some under). They still have a pretty pronounced graininess to them. I have to be honest, I just don't enjoy them straight.

    Any suggestions of what cocktails do well with a grainier, newer whiskey (recipes please!)? I normally drink my bourbon straight up, so this is sort of new territory for me.

    My Inventory of young stuff which needs to go:
    • Smooth Ambler Yearling
    • BT White Dog
    • Dry Fly Washington Wheat
    • Roundstone Rye
    • Belmont Farm Kopper Kettle


    EDIT: Upon further review, I recognize that only one of these whiskies is actually bourbon...
    Last edited by dmarkle; 11-09-2014 at 07:38.

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    Re: Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    I use the expressions I don't/won't drink in cooking.
    Sto lat!!!

    bllygthrd

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    Re: Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    Broken record here - Over on the "What cocktail . . ." thread (post 239, 21 Oct 2014) and again on a white whiskey thread, I linked to, or at least mentioned, a Saveur mag article titled 'Whiskey Rebellion' from August 2011 (issue 141) that featured some newer, young, or "craft" whiskeys in recipes developed by bartenders around the country. My wife and I have worked our way through them all and liked most of them, particularly since some of them use the grainy taste of young whiskey to advantage. Link is:

    http://www.saveur.com/article/Wine-a...skey-Rebellion

    Disclosure: I have no professional or financial interest in Saveur or the brands listed. I just like to drink and have been doing so (legally) for over 48 years and have an abiding desire to help young folks flatten their learning curve. Enjoy.

    Oh, and one of the Smoknjoes has posted his corn whiskey Bloody Mary with Bacon recipe. Many of the younger whiskeys, but particularly the young bourbons, work in that as well.

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    Re: Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    I have found you can often get interesting Old Fashioneds and Manhattans out of younger and white whiskeys. Old Fashioneds, work with the fruits you use and sweetness level to get something that works. Manhattans...use orange or blood orange bitters.

    Young corn whiskeys and white dogs work well to make apple pie...not a cocktail so much as a process to some jars of fun. Feel free to email me if you would like some recipes...although be aware it requires large pots to cook in and simple canning (jarring) processes. Mellow Corn makes a hell of a pie!

    There are folks down here in the South that swear by mixing things like Mountain Dew, Sun Drop, or Squirt with white and young whiskeys. YMMV...personally I question their breeding LOL. Then there's always the "...and Red Bull" route...which might not make a great drink, but if you're drinking with others no one will want to swipe it LOL.

    Finally, not to rain on anyone's parade since I prefer not to mock folks for what they like or don't like, but to my mind BT White Dog is proof that while some great whiskeys come from great white dogs worth drinking, not all do. ;-)

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    Re: Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    Quote Originally Posted by fivedime View Post
    I have found you can often get interesting Old Fashioneds and Manhattans out of younger and white whiskeys. Old Fashioneds, work with the fruits you use and sweetness level to get something that works. Manhattans...use orange or blood orange bitters.

    Young corn whiskeys and white dogs work well to make apple pie...not a cocktail so much as a process to some jars of fun. Feel free to email me if you would like some recipes...although be aware it requires large pots to cook in and simple canning (jarring) processes. Mellow Corn makes a hell of a pie!

    There are folks down here in the South that swear by mixing things like Mountain Dew, Sun Drop, or Squirt with white and young whiskeys. YMMV...personally I question their breeding LOL. Then there's always the "...and Red Bull" route...which might not make a great drink, but if you're drinking with others no one will want to swipe it LOL.

    Finally, not to rain on anyone's parade since I prefer not to mock folks for what they like or don't like, but to my mind BT White Dog is proof that while some great whiskeys come from great white dogs worth drinking, not all do. ;-)
    Most of this was out of curiosity. I actually think I might try to make a variation on a Manhattan with a dash or two of Compass Box Orangerie (I might even make a margarita with that stuff!)

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    Re: Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    Tonight it was 2 parts Smooth Ambler yearling. 3 dashes Angostura bitters. 1 part sugar-water. 1 part Compass Box Orangerie. Ice. NOT TOO SHABBY.

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    Re: Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    While waiting for a junk truck to pick up stuff today, I cleaned out my 3X5 card file of drink recipes which really is a once-a-year project intended to remind me of what's in there as few, if any, get pitched. Found these white/young whiskey recipes:

    Katrina (made up while watching the Katrina mess on TV)
    2 oz. white whiskey
    6 oz. lime soda
    juice from 1/2 tangerine
    2 teaspoons of grenadine
    rocks in an Old Fashioned glass

    Livorno (variation of a Jason Wilson 'Boozehound' recipe)
    1.5 oz. young bourbon
    3/4 oz. Tuaca
    Peychaud's bitters
    maraschino cherry w/ some of its juice
    strain into a martini glass or relish the fact you have ice and have it over rocks
    the Tuaca & the Mara juice cover up shortcomings in a young bourbon

    Lady Marmalade (made up when we had too much homemade grapefruit marmalade to eat so we drank it)
    2 oz. bourbon
    2 oz. marmalade
    3 oz. or so of lemon-lime soda like Sprite
    3 dashes Fee Bros basic bitters or Angostura (but Fee Bros gives a slightly different taste to sweet stuff)
    Mix the whiskey and marmalade a lot - even let it sit awhile and go do something else
    Add ice in an Old Fashioned glass or a Collins glass, depending on the next step
    Taste and then add the Sprite or 7-Up or whatever until you like the taste.
    If too sweet, make another drink, cutting back on marmalade and increase the bitters

    White Manhattan (Jason Wilson again in the WashPost 3/3/2010; he based this on a drink by Neyah White of Nopa in San Fran.)
    1.5 oz. white whiskey (like Copper Fox, Death's Door; I've used Virginia Lightning, too, but be careful with it as it is really raw)
    1/2 oz. Benedictine
    1/2 oz. Blanc Vermouth (NOT "dry" white vermouth, but "blanc" white vermouth)
    3 or so dashes orange bitters (Regan's or Fee Bros)
    In a shaker, stir then strain into chilled martini glass

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    Re: Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    Don't fear blending the young crafty stuff with older more affordable stuff to round out your base spirit. Ewbib and owa come to mind
    Bourbon only requires a glass.

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    Re: Cocktail suggestions for quality newer-make bourbons?

    Too lazy to mix and feel too guilty to pour down the drain so I have started giving to a friend that doesn't mind an open bottle and is not particular with what he drinks.

 

 

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