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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    I asked Jim R. about a rye a few months ago at a tasting - his reply was that capacity constraints prevent them from attempting it at this time; bourbon demand has got them max'd out. I'm sure the answer is the same for a wheater. Rye seems a logical next step if they can increase capacity; a wheater, if at all a thought, has to be behind that.
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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    Jim's been asked numerous times, and at least when I've been present, his answer has been: "No.".
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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    Quote Originally Posted by jburlowski View Post
    Jim's been asked numerous times, and at least when I've been present, his answer has been: "No.".
    I've heard "Not while I'm here" for the rye whiskey question on multiple occasions.

    The subtext has been that a "fully aged" rye wouldn't be ready to bottle before he retires and he doesn't want to start something for someone send to finish.
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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    Quote Originally Posted by callmeox View Post
    I've heard "Not while I'm here" for the rye whiskey question on multiple occasions.

    The subtext has been that a "fully aged" rye wouldn't be ready to bottle before he retires and he doesn't want to start something for someone send to finish.
    So Rutledge is retiring? New rumor! Quick to the multiple thread machine! :batman:
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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    Quote Originally Posted by callmeox View Post
    I've heard "Not while I'm here" for the rye whiskey question on multiple occasions.

    The subtext has been that a "fully aged" rye wouldn't be ready to bottle before he retires and he doesn't want to start something for someone send to finish.
    this would be exactly what I would do. I've become a master at what I've done. And they isn't a need to prove anything else.

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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    I would rather they keep running full tilt at producing their unique whiskys, the crafting of which they have mastered, and not get side tracked with the current rye fad.
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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    Quote Originally Posted by Restaurant man View Post
    So Rutledge is retiring? New rumor! Quick to the multiple thread machine! :batman:
    He's hinted at retiring for a few years now. Funny, but then he'll say he still has a few things to do. Good man. When he does finally retire he'll be missed.

    I've also asked him who is going to replace him if, and/or when he eventually does decide to retire. He was pretty vague about that, and really didn't give an answer.
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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    In conversations I have been a party to with Mr. Rutledge and others from Four Roses, my impression was that the main obstacle to releasing a rye was their parent company, Kirin, was not keen on the idea.

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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    I've also heard the "don't wanna start what I can't finish" line in regards to the rye. There is probably more than one sole reason though.
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    Re: Hypothetical- Will Four Roses ever make a wheater?

    It's actually kind of fun to think what JR could do with a wheater recipe or a rye whiskey, but I'm content drinking what they make right now....the finest bourbons in the universe
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