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    Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    I just received a special order case of Eagle Rare. It has the the new neck band with just the stars and no single barrel 10year statement. However there is a tag on the box that says single barrel. From reading other threads here I understand that the new label was a batch whiskey not single barrel. It tastes just as good as my last bottle that was labeled single barrel. Is this maybe just a step in the process of changing to batch from single barrel?
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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    Old box, new batch. If you like the whisky and the price was reasonable then accept it for what it is. If the goal is to put better whisky in the bottle maturity and higher proof count but this single barrel idea was not intended to make a better whisky, rather it's a marketing concept created to compete with single malt.
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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    Quote Originally Posted by squire View Post
    Old box, new batch. If you like the whisky and the price was reasonable then accept it for what it is. If the goal is to put better whisky in the bottle maturity and higher proof count but this single barrel idea was not intended to make a better whisky, rather it's a marketing concept created to compete with single malt.
    So much this. Its always been odd to me that we're enamored with the idea of single barrel being a quality indicator. If anything its likely to be a marker of inconsistency. That inconsistency might be interesting, and it allows you to occasionally get something really amazing, but gives equal chance of getting one that doesn't sit right with you. Either way, unless you're lucky and quick, you're unlikely to have another bottle from that barrel again.

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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    At least it's still age stated 10 years on the back label. We'll see how long that sticks around.
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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ramblinman View Post
    So much this. Its always been odd to me that we're enamored with the idea of single barrel being a quality indicator. If anything its likely to be a marker of inconsistency. That inconsistency might be interesting, and it allows you to occasionally get something really amazing, but gives equal chance of getting one that doesn't sit right with you. Either way, unless you're lucky and quick, you're unlikely to have another bottle from that barrel again.
    You are SPOT ON, ramblinman! IMHO Inconsistency is the big bugaboo with SB offerings. I think the distilleries do their brands a disservice when they don't pick to a pretty tight profile for these offerings; but apparently they don't agree, or at least don't feel it is important enough to spend the extra time to do that. I've had a few that were way 'off'. I had a bottle of ET Lee a couple years ago that was awful! I stayed away from the brand until very recently, after hearing from many that urged me back.

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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    As I understand it, ER10 is still a single barrel product. However, due to bottling line intricacies, sequential barrel bottlings may have some mixing in some bottles. This has led BT to determine that this brand no longer meets their definition of single barrel. This does not make it small batch, though, since the mixing is unintentional. If I am wrong about this, please let me know.

    I don't care about the lack of legal definitions here, I just want to know the process used. My definition of single barrel would be all the whiskey in the bottle came from one barrel dumped out at one time. My definition of small batch would be a number of barrels mixed together to conform to a desired taste profile. If it isn't done that way, it doesn't meet my standard for those terms.
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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    It doesn't have any legal meaning, so anything from a single barrel up to multiple thousand gallon dumps can be small batch.

    The individual distillers have their own definition, but off the top of my head I can't think of one who has actually published what they mean by it.

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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiSon View Post
    As I understand it, ER10 is still a single barrel product. However, due to bottling line intricacies, sequential barrel bottlings may have some mixing in some bottles. This has led BT to determine that this brand no longer meets their definition of single barrel. This does not make it small batch, though, since the mixing is unintentional. If I am wrong about this, please let me know.
    That's what I took out of that Mark Brown open letter thread as well. I think *most* bottles are still single barrel, but they can't promise they all are so they changed the label.

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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    Thanks guys, I must of missed the Mark Brown open letter thread. That all makes sense. It's good bourbon and that's all that matters.

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    Re: Is the new label Eagle Raree single barrel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiSon View Post
    My definition of small batch would be a number of barrels mixed together to conform to a desired taste profile.
    So less than some number or just that there was more than one barrel involved? Not sure I'm processing that sentence correctly in my head.

 

 

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