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    Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    Recently I purchased a bottle of Wild Turkey 101 bourbon that is EXCEPTIONAL. It's leaps and bounds better than any other bottle of WT101 bourbon I've ever had. It has greater complexity and a nice dry tobacco flavor that I've never found before in this bottling. To my palate, it even surpasses the Rare Breed for balance and complexity.
    This got me thinking a little bit about variance and nuances I've noticed in the mass-bottled whiskies. Is this common? Is it just in my head? Has anyone else noticed these variations in the mass-bottled stuff????
    If you have anything Michter's or Pennco and would like to sell it or share it with me, please let me know.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    Quote Originally Posted by ethangsmith View Post
    Recently I purchased a bottle of Wild Turkey 101 bourbon that is EXCEPTIONAL. It's leaps and bounds better than any other bottle of WT101 bourbon I've ever had. It has greater complexity and a nice dry tobacco flavor that I've never found before in this bottling. To my palate, it even surpasses the Rare Breed for balance and complexity.
    This got me thinking a little bit about variance and nuances I've noticed in the mass-bottled whiskies. Is this common? Is it just in my head? Has anyone else noticed these variations in the mass-bottled stuff????
    WT 101 and BT are the biggest teases in the industry
    I get more variation from their bottles, regular and "special" offerings, than any other company.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    I would take an infinite number of bottles of the WT101 bottle I have right now. Just had some more this evening and it was AWESOME again.
    If you have anything Michter's or Pennco and would like to sell it or share it with me, please let me know.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    Quote Originally Posted by ethangsmith View Post
    I would take an infinite number of bottles of the WT101 bottle I have right now. Just had some more this evening and it was AWESOME again.
    Too bad you can't clone a bottle of whiskey.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    I've only had 1 bottle of BT, but the 3 bottles of ER10 so far have been dead on consistency and taste wise. They were all from the same store around the same batch on the shelf (before a new case restock) so thats not a surprise. Same with WT101, only been thru a few bottles that taste the same but again from the same few months/stores. I do notice some nights I just have an off palate night where a bourbon tastes maybe not as complex or deep. If you've had this several nights tnen its not just a good taste night effect, you just got a great bottle. I get it more from Rare Breed, so maybe you got a honey barrel that made its way into a standard 101 bottling.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    I've definitely noticed variance with Buffalo Trace. I thought they were consistent, until I got stuck with a 1.75 that was a real stinker - thin, acidic, with a lot of alcohol heat. I'm definitely not imagining it. I like BT. I do not like this bottle.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    I have had some standard bottles of brands that I like that don't seem as good. I have also had some that seem infinitely better. I have also had some bottles that seem to improve the longer they are open. I would assume some variability if the batches are based on input from tasting panels. I would also assume some variance based on palate changes over time. Some whiskeys seem better in the winter than summer. I am not sure why. I assume part of it is mental based on perception of what is best during what time of year.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    I should add that my recent bottle of the new batch of Rare Breed is downright awful. I think I may have hit the opposite end of the spectrum with this one. Everyone else seems to be enjoying the new 112 proof bottling over the old 108, but my bottle is just lousy. It's flavorless, hot, thin, and loaded with nothing but cinnamon notes. So I'm counting that one as a bad bottle. I've also found some minor bottle-to-bottle variance in Evan Williams, Old Ezra 101, Old Grand Dad BIB, and Old Forester Signature. Then, of course there's the small batch stuff like EC12 and 1792 where I've found less subtle variances (Most times for the good, not the bad.).
    If you have anything Michter's or Pennco and would like to sell it or share it with me, please let me know.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    I've had bottles of Elijah Craig that could have been completely different brands to the point that I don't really expect anything consistent about it with the exception of heavy oak.

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    Re: Variance in mass-bottled whiskey.

    if it was a recent purchase, go back to that store and buy loads more. you have a decent chance on getting the same batch at least.

    ive been very pleased with both WT101 and the new 112 WTRB lately. maybe theyre onto something again
    Think about how stupid the average person is.....then realize that half of them are more stupid than that.

 

 

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