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  1. #11
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    Re: beer

    I agree that there is likely a market for Heineken light. Although I'd guess they surely have tested the concept and have a reason for not introducing it.

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    Re: beer

    > although if I want an imported lager I'm more inclined toward Becks or, best
    > of all, Pilsner Urquell. However, in Prague I prefer Staropremen, which is
    > available here but, for some reason, doesn't seem to travel as well as Pilsner
    > Urquell

    I try and try, but I've never in my life had a Pilsner Urquell or a
    Staroprammen that didn't taste like skunky, spoiled crap. In my
    experience, neither of them can survive the voyage over.


    Tim Dellinger

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    Re: beer

    Corona? Why don't they just drink water?

    Tim

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    Re: beer

    Yes, Pilsner Urqell is one of my favorites, too. The only thing I consistently like better is Bass Ale.

    But, I like Bud, so what do I know?

    Tim

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    Re: beer

    I got to try Staropremen at Christmas that my aunt brought back after spending two years in Prague and found it to be rather like Heineken. She said that her preference was draft Budweiss, which is imported under the name Czechvar here due to copyright battles with AB. I'm trying to get the owner of the liquor store up the street to get some for me to try but most of the big online stores want 10 bucks for a six pack which is a bit much for beer IMHO. I've tried the Pilsner Urquell but for the life of me can't remember what it tasted like. Must not have left a good impression.

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    Re: beer

    Maybe, Chuck, but I always thought Amstel Light went after the young urban market. Heineken is more of a mainstream established (prosperous Middle American) brand. I'd have thought drinkers in that group worried about calories or the beer being "heavy" would migrate naturally to a light Heineken, i.e., no or little cannibalization with Amstel Light would occur. Maybe not though: Heineken is a famously successful international company, and I'm sure they thought this through. Maybe.

    I have some notes on the Staropremen situation and will forward to the board.

    Gary

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    Re: beer

    No, Tim, maybe you never drank Urquel in the can. I agree that in the green bottle, it is always (in my experience) light struck to a degree. This of course is not true of the can and this is a beer that moves fast in most markets. It has the classic malty Moravian taste offset by the equally classic Saaz spicy hop taste. A fine beer, and one of the few that not only is good in the can but is better that way than in bottle.

    Gary

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    Re: beer

    Go back and try some Urquell--readily available for a reasonable price--before you jump through too many hoops to try the Czechvar. They are all pretty similar and, you're right, a lot like Heineken.

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    Re: beer

    My father shares your opinion. He recoils if I even mention them.

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    Re: beer

    For those interested in Staropramen, see Roger Protz' article on the English-brewed version highlighted on the main page of his website, www.protzonbeer.com. It is the one called, "Something Lost in the Translation". Mr. Protz is an internationally known consumer authority on beer. He is a stickler for stylistic integrity. I find he goes a bit too far in trying to show this beer has strayed from its roots but he gives a lot of interesting information. The beer I had in England tasted the same as the one we get in Ontario. So the one exported here may be made in England. Protz notes that Interbrew says it uses brewing syrups in the beer whether made in Prague or England. Therefore, I think the palates of the Czech and English-brewed versions likely are quite similar despite some (inevitable) production differences. If the one imported to Ontario is made in Prague, that would be some evidence of that. I will check the bottle the next time I am at the LCBO.

    I prefer the other internationally available Czech beers to Staropramen such as Pilsener Urquel (in the can) and Czechvar, and there are others. There is interesting information given in the same website on some of these other brews.

    Gary

 

 

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