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    Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    I was trying to special order some Van Winkle rye through my state liquor board. Their distributor said that the Van Winkle distillery told them that the 13 yr old rye was no longer available.

    Is this true? Are they not bottling the VWFRR any more? If that's true, it would be very disappointing. If it's not true, I'd like to know why I've been told this.

    Anyone know any more about this?

    Thanks,
    Will

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    Van Winkle Rye is now highly allocated. As we make Julian's whiskies available throughout the U.S., there is less product going into the older, better established markets, however, we are able to introduce more folks around the country to these nice products.

    That being said, I tried the Binny's website and they are out of it. I know that www.internetwines.com has it in stock.

    Ken

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    I believe Julian tanked his (much older than) 13 yr rye and is only bottling limited amounts of it over the coming years until new product reaches maturity.

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    I know that www.internetwines.com has it in stock.

    Ken
    It looks like there is some special process I can follow to legally order liquor from out-of-state, but I'm having trouble getting the details from the state liquor board. I would be willing to pay the premium that internetwines charges if it meant a chance to try the VWFRR.

    On a happier note, I should be getting my bottle of Sazerac Rye from my NH friend soon. They also are supposedly getting some Stagg in, but are pointing the finger at Sazerac for "forgetting" to ship them the Stagg. My wager is that they guessed when it would be available, and now that it's a month off, they want to blame someone else.

    My aging grandparents gave all their grandchildren a nice Christmas check this year, and I'm planning to allocate some of it to 2-3 bottles of Stagg once it finally arrives up here.

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    ...They also are supposedly getting some Stagg in, but are pointing the finger at Sazerac for "forgetting" to ship them the Stagg.
    Guess they figure you won't know (or else, they don't know -- which is perhaps more likely) that the shippers of Sazerac and Stagg are one and the same -- Buffalo Trace. Sazerac, Stagg and Eagle Rare 17yo all come off the same bottling line -- which several of us watched happen on Buffalo Trace's distillery camera.

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?



    Guess they figure you won't know (or else, they don't know -- which is perhaps more likely) that the shippers of Sazerac and Stagg are one and the same -- Buffalo Trace. Sazerac, Stagg and Eagle Rare 17yo all come off the same bottling line -- which several of us watched happen on Buffalo Trace's distillery camera.
    Well, I think the parent company of Buffalo Trace is called "The Sazerac Company" out of New Orleans. That's who they're pointing the finger at.

    Regardless, they think they'll have some Stagg in 3-4 weeks. Then I'll be taking a road trip down to West Lebanon, NH to pick up a few bottles for myself. I can't wait to try it, after all the hype I've heard!

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    I've been unable to get the Van Winkle Rye here in SC since sometime last spring. Though Sazerac, Stagg, and Eagle Rare have been readily available for about 2 months now.
    Craig

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    When we produced the Antique Collection, all of our distributors (and bailment warehouses) were advised that an allocation had been determined for each state and that if orders were not entered and shipped by the end of October, their allocation would be shared with other distributors who had acted in a timely fashion. Control states don't always move very fast under normal circumstances and no amount of encouragement will get that to change. I know that we are out of stock here at the distillery. For the state to say that some is coming in a few weeks causes me to wonder where they are getting it.

    Ken

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    We re-allocate to each state in July, so if any rye is to be available, look for it in July or August each year.
    Julian

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    Re: Van Winkle Rye no longer available?

    Ken, I'm not sure where they got it, but I just received confirmation that NH just got in 3 cases of Stagg. I'm purchasing 2 bottles from a case of 3, and my friend who lives in NH and is picking this up is buying the 3rd bottle.

 

 

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