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    Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2004

    In his new Whiskey Bible under Woodford Reserve, Mr. Murray magically reviews two products that do not exist, Four Grain and Personal Selection.

    It is possible he tasted some of Woodford's experimental four grain whiskey, but that product has not been released, won’t have that name if and when it is released, and may not be the same whiskey Murray tasted if and when it is released.

    He also reviews Woodford Reserve "Personal Selection." This is the Woodford Reserve version of buy-a-barrel. A customer (such as a bar or liquor store, but a well-heeled individual can do it too) selects one barrel from the Woodford County distillery (from a pre-screened range) and one from the Jefferson County distillery. These are then mixed together as a "Personal Selection" Woodford Reserve. Presumably, Murray tasted someone’s "Personal Selection," but someone else’s "Personal Selection" will be completely different.

    That will teach you what happens when you read Jim Murray.

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    Re: Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2004

    That will teach you what happens when you read Jim Murray.
    Yes, but isn't fiction the most profitable book genre?

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    Re: Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2004

    And within fiction, fantasy is a pretty popular genre.

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    Re: Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2004

    Hmmm, but can I find:

    “Bourbon, Straight – The Uncut and Unfiltered Story of American Whiskey” by Charles K. Cowdery. [2004, Charles K. Cowdery] (signed by Charles K. Cowdery)

    ....at "Deals" for $1.00!


    I sense some professional rivalry here...

    Chuck...I promise to add your tome to my collection along with some of the others mentioned in the Whiskey library thred...if I can find them. Bottoms up...

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    Re: Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2004

    It'll probably be more clear once you get Chuck's book and read the chapter on why ratings are pure bull$*!%. This is, of course, a lot of what Jim Murray is about (rating whisk(e)ys).

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    Re: Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2004

    When I met Jim we had an interesting discussion on that subject. He feels strongly that someone (i.e., him) has to help the poor whiskey drinker and give them some guidance. Not only does he give numerical scores, but he grades the nose, taste and finish separately, then averages those three scores to arrive and the total score for the whiskey. He didn't really have an answer when I asked him how he determined that nose, taste and finish should have exactly equal weight in every case.

    (My basic thesis is that it is all pretty arbitrary.)

    I don't know how much professional rivalry there is, as I am but a fly on Mr. Murray's butt if you compare our sales, but I'm doing my best to catch up.

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    Re: Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2004

    Chuck,

    As a kid growing up in southern Illinois I sometimes saw and was even bitten by something the old-timers called a horsefly. It was several times larger than the common housefly and capable of getting one's attention, especially if it happened to bite a young skinny-dipper on the butt.

    I'm tempted to introduce this critter and its behavior into your metaphor, but I won't.

    Yours truly,
    Dave Morefield

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    Re: Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2004

    I hope nobody here considers my jibe at Murray to be anything less than good-natured. I look forward to the day when he will consider me even a small nuisance, competition-wise.

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    Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2005

    Well, I decided to do the only fair thing I could. I ordered both Jim Murray's 2005 Whiskey Bible and Chuck's book from Amazon. When they get here, I plan to evaluate each of the two books based on (1) nose (does it smell paper-ey, cardboard-ey, or plastic-ey?), (2) Taste (mmh... wood pulp), and (3) Finish (i.e. does it papercut when I try the taste test?).

    I have the 2004 Whiskey Bible, and while I don't agree with some of his ratings, just reading it has caused me to get off my butt and go out and try things that I probably wouldn't have tried otherwise.

    What I find interesting is that I can't find the 2005 Whiskey Bible on the shelf anywhere. I didn't find a single Borders or B&N with a copy anywhere (as opposed to last year where I saw it everywhere), and I looked across roughly three states as I travelled. I wonder why no-one reordered? I'd rather see it on the shelf than some "Spanky Jankin's Yet Another Huge Guide to Single Malt Scotch Whisky" book.

    - Jeff

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    Re: Jim Murray\'s Whiskey Bible 2005

    I picked up a copy of the 2005 Whiskey Bible just before Christmas and pretty much agree to disagree with Jim on many of our favorite bourbons but got a pretty good laugh on a couple of his listings. The absolute lowest I found was a 17 on a S***** called Dunglas on page 127. What a riot.

    However, for the life of me I can't see Pappy 20 as a 78 while rating JB white an 85. As you will read in Chuck's book (which I heartily endorse), ratings are overrated.

 

 

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