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  1. #101
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    Re: Your best classic martini recipe...

    Quote Originally Posted by GreggB View Post
    ....One difference between drugs such as caffeine, alcohol, and nicotine, versus drugs such as heroin or cocaine, is concentration. Users of caffeine, alcohol, and nicotine use these drugs in "cut" form (coffee, bourbon, cigars, etc.), far from the pure form users of heroin or cocaine employ. I sometimes wonder if law has something to do with it -- if legalizing heroin and cocaine would lead to more dilute forms being used (as in the dilute cocaine-containing beverages of old). We love to accessorize.
    perhaps I am getting terribly off topic but this discussion of vodka intrigues me. Recently while dining out I noticed the menu listed three bourbons; Jim Beam (I'm assuming they meant JB White), WT 101 and Makers Mark but listed at least seven vodkas. I chuckled. What ensued was a discussion along the lines of what has already been said in this thread. It was my assertion that vodka is for the alcohol effect only. My wife took the position that I was running down vodka as a beverage choice because I don't drink it. Admittedly, I have a tendency to do that sort of thing. I have never smoked and I don't understand the attraction or the addiction. Janean used to smoke and is quick to point out that because I never have I don't have a frame of reference as a means of understanding why someone gets pleasure both from the nicotine and the taste. To me it just stinks, and I don't understand why anyone would want to suck that smoke down into their lungs.

    Having said that, I will say that at least tobacco produces a smoke that has a smell and taste that some people find pleasurable. Whiskey, beer, wine, coffee and tea, while they contain drugs; alcohol and caffeine, the drug isn't the main attraction. They are potables with complex flavors. OK, I'll admit the alcohol in whiskey and wine is more pleasurable and of course more noticeable in its effect than the caffeine in coffee and tea but still.

    Heroin and cocaine or drugs. They are not ingredients in a potable substance created as a byproduct of its manufacture (fermentation) or in the case of tobacco where nicotine occurs naturally as an ancillary substance like the caffeine in tea. Heroin and cocaine are pharmaceuticals. If legal, what diluted form would they be consumed in? Perhaps one might make the argument that putting the small amount of cocaine back in Coca-Cola might constitute a safe dilute recreational usage tied to a flavor experience. But did Coke ever contain a noticeable amount of cocaine? I doubt it. Otherwise folks would have found it very habit forming.

    I don't think the difference in drugs such as caffeine, alcohol, and nicotine, versus drugs such as heroin or cocaine, is one of concentration.
    the difference lies in the fact that caffeine, nicotine and alcohol, vodka and grain alcohol like Everclear notwithstanding, exist as an incidental ingredient of the product they are a part of.

  2. #102
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    Re: Your best classic martini recipe...

    Back to the topic the OP started.

    I use Bombay Sapphire or Hendricks Gin. About 4 oz.
    I have a little mister for the vermouth (dry M&R), so I just spray it a few times to coat the (pre-chilled, very important, in the freezer if possible) glass. I may experiment with a few actual ratios of gin:vermouth, like 4:1, 6:1, 8:1.
    I see no problem with a metal shaker, again as cold as possible, I like to leave one filled with ice in the freezer if I know I'm having 'tinis.
    I have deviated from the pure martini recently to "dirty" ones. I found Dirty Sue's Olive Juice (made popular on Sex In The City) to be cheapest at Liquorama on-line. Santa Barbara Olive company also makes it, as does Collins and some others.
    Next, bleu cheese stuffed olives. The Santa Barbara ones are only for emergencies. Avoid olives in oil. Sam's makes their own and they're great, but they have to be fresh; they only last a few days. I recently stuffed my own after pulling the pimentos out of giant olives and it went pretty well. The key is cutting the bleu cheese pieces to fit the hole in the olive. I often poke extra holes in the olives just before making the drink to let more gin seep into the olive for its eventual consumption. I read somewhere that 2 olives are bad luck--go for 3 or 4.
    After shaking the gin and olive juice for about 20-30 seconds, strain into the vermouth coated freezing glass. Using a strainer instead of the cocktail shaker top will let a few small pieces of ice in. The perfect martini for me actually has thin sheets of ice on top initially.
    Here's one now:
    "A man can take a little bourbon without getting drunk, but if you hold his mouth open and pour in a quart, he's going to get sick on it."
    LBJ

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    Re: Your best classic martini recipe...

    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoys View Post
    I read somewhere that 2 olives are bad luck--go for 3 or 4.
    Actually, the superstition as I understand it is that it's bad luck to have an even number of olives. We generally us either one jumbo olive or 3 smaller olives. Leslie has been known to send a martini back if it shows up with 2 olives

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    Re: Your best classic martini recipe...

    It has been a while since I've mixed a martini, but, in my opinion, olives ruin martinis and martinis ruin olives. Olives and gin just don't go together, in my humble opinion.

    Ed
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    Re: Your best classic martini recipe...

    Ed, you and I are usually pretty much on the same track but, to me, the olives are the best part of a martini.

    Tim
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    Re: Your best classic martini recipe...

    Quote Originally Posted by ratcheer View Post
    Ed, you and I are usually pretty much on the same track but, to me, the olives are the best part of a martini.

    Tim
    It really puzzles me that I should feel this way. They should go together, but, somehow, they don't fit for me.

    I love green olives, so much so that I rarely buy them. I find it hard not to eat the whole jar once it is open.

    Ed
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