Jeff's Beer

[Gillman]

I only had time to drink one during Gazebo just past but was most impressed. It was the Porter. I liked the balance on it, it was malty but not overly so with a nice roasted effect and a slightly acid aftertaste which is correct for this beer style. Originally, porters were blends of old and young dark ales. The older had a slight lactic note from brettanomyces or other prolonged bacterial or wild yeast action; this was before refrigeration days and even heavy hopping could not stop beers becoming acid over time. Young ales were fresh and sweet. So they were combined, in various proportions, to get a good balance (sorry guys, the London brewers came up with the blending idea, not me). Jeff's beer was very traditional in offering that palate. Today, most brewers use a certain hop type to get the acid-like note, which I assume Jeff did. This was very drinkable and fresh-tasting, almost the perfect Porter. Well done, Jeff.

Gary

P.S. An English Porter just out in Toronto is called St. Peter's Old-Style Porter. It is a blend of old and young ales (per details on the back label). Jeff, if that is available in your area, check it out, it offers a good example of the traditional English style but yours was as good and better in some ways, e.g. I assume the St. Peter's beers are pasteurised. You may be familiar with some of their beers, they come in a repro 1700's clear glass bottle and are handsome to look at and nice to handle. Rarely have I encountered a bad bottle from the clear glass.

[boone]

A group of us sat by the pool (at the General Nelson) on Saturday...On hand, was Jeff's ----->Jeff-O-Wiser<----?????? Shoot, I can't remember what the name of it was but it was wonderful a excellent brew I was impressed...Good Job Jeff

Bettye Jo

[doubleblank]

I also had a bottle of Jeff's porter and it was delicious. Great job and looking forward to next time I get one of his brews.

Mitch with Twisted Spoke shared a couple of bottles of beer he brought from a local Chicago brewer. It was a stout aged in used BT barrels. A 4 oz serving was just about right due to the extra richness imparted by the barrels. I'm in Chicago next week and will try to find it and post names, etc.

Randy

[jeff]

Thanks Gary and everyone for the compliments. That particular porter was born here:

http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp:/...0/page/0#43423

And the IPA, though a different and more refined batch, here:

http://www.straightbourbon.comhttp:/...0/page/1#31630

I also had a Hefeweizen available. I love homebrewing. It allows me a level of control I can't achieve in my bourbon hobby. Gary, I have not tried the Porter from St. Peters, but I have had the Milk Stout, which I think will be the inspiration for my next brew.

[Gillman]

Thanks, and I now recall that earlier thread where you gave the detailed spec.

The St. Peter's Cream Stout is good, too, somewhat softer and sweeter than the Porter as befits the style.

I also like a true Imperial Stout by which I mean one with some brett influence. Rogue makes a very good one.

Imperial Stout and the best porters and pale ales reach the height of the brewing art. This is due in part to use of (ideally top-fermentation at temperatures that suit such yeasts. The complexity you get is (can be) amazing. If there is one thing I would seek to add, Jeff, in these beers, it is a fruity (black fruit-like) scent. This is a hallmark of English warm ferments, in particular. This can be achieved with certain yeasts (Wye and so forth) but fermentation temperature is important, too. Actually I just looked again at the spec and you do use English top yeasts at the classic 68 F. Maybe the beer was too cold and I missed the estery elements!

Gary

[jeff]

Thanks, and I now recall that earlier thread where you gave the detailed spec.

The St. Peter's Cream Stout is good, too, somewhat softer and sweeter than the Porter as befits the style.

I also like a true Imperial Stout by which I mean one with some brett influence. Rogue makes a very good one.

Imperial Stout and the best porters and pale ales reach the height of the brewing art. This is due in part to use of (ideally top-fermentation at temperatures that suit such yeasts. The complexity you get is (can be) amazing. If there is one thing I would seek to add, Jeff, in these beers, it is a fruity (black fruit-like) scent. This is a hallmark of English warm ferments, in particular. This can be achieved with certain yeasts (Wye and so forth) but fermentation temperature is important, too. Actually I just looked again at the spec and you do use English top yeasts at the classic 68 F. Maybe the beer was too cold and I missed the estery elements!

Gary

Gary,

I know the flavor to which you refer and I like it. Problem is, in the relatively uncontrolable enviornment of my home brewery, there is a fine line between high fermentation temps for esters , and diacetyl. Therefore, I take every precaution to ensure spot-on or lower fermentation temps. I had one batch of IPA that was so buttery/butterscotch-like that you could have poured it over vanilla ice cream for dessert

[brewcrew]

It was more than likely Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout. They sell it in bottles in 4 packs although I think the next batch is not available until December the brewpub still has some. Rock Bottom in Chicago currently has a Bourbon aged Imperial Stout and Bourbon aged Barley wine if you have extra time while you are in Chicago.

[jeff]

Now being served is an oatmeal stout I brewed up about 7 weeks ago. Nice and roasty with a silky-smooth mouthfeel that only oatmeal can deliver. My beer cooler is always open (figuratively), so stop by anytime for a cold one

Yesterday I battled the wind and light rain to brew up a German style Altbier. It is fermemnting away this morning. I plan on cold-conditioning this one for a month or two before bottling. Homebrewing can really test your patience

[Gillman]

Jeff, recently in Ontario there was a special release, Tsarina Katarina Imperial Stout, from Scotch-Irish Brewing Company based near Ottawa, Ontario. This is a very good example of the style, no Brettomyces was used (the brewer used to be a winemaker and does not like the Brett taste) but it has a rich, pure taste with a good coffee-like and licorice palate. 9% ABV. I bought a case and a few are reserved for you in April against that Cummins Black Gold bourbon you've promised me (both are about the same color!). It is bottle-conditioned and I think by April it will reach its peak, but is very good now. It is somewhat like Russian River's Rasputin, if you know that one, but less sweet and with a more English hop orientation (although the Rasputin is very good indeed). Based on my historical readings, this beer approximates a 19th century double stout London porter (which went by various names such as XXXX Porter, Imperial Stout, etc.).

Gary

[gr8erdane]

You don't deliver?