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  1. #11
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    Nearly every comment made in this thread is accurate. When we distilled bourbon a decade ago, the barrel was marked Ancient Age (in reference to the distillery, not necessarily for the brand). Likewise, the barrels that are marked Old Fitzgerald have been used for Weller and Van Winkle bourbons.

    As far as I know, and I will confirm this with Harlen, all BT Mash bill #1 is entered into the barrel at the same proof (likewise for the other Mash bills).

    Finally, our wheated bourbons are entered into the barrel at significantly lower proof than the rye recipe mash bills.

    Ken

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    OK I am ordering Chuck's book tonite as I still have a lot to learn! I had only a light idea about this, but in know way did I think that many different bourbons could come from the same mashbill. That is amazing
    C

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  3. #13
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    So Ken, how many Buffalo Trace Mash Bills are there?

    Here is what I got:

    Mash Bill 1 - Bourbon Low Rye
    Mash Bill 2 - Bourbon High Rye
    Mash Bill ? - Bourbon Wheat
    Mash Bill ? - Rye
    Mash Bill ? - ?
    Tim

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  4. #14
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    Mashbill 3 - Bourbon Wheat
    Mashbill 4 - rye
    Mashbill 5 - Rain Vodka

    Etohchem
    Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Who brought the chips?

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by etohchem
    Mashbill 3 - Bourbon Wheat
    Mashbill 4 - rye
    Mashbill 5 - Rain Vodka

    Etohchem
    I believe its HEAVEN HILL that makes Rain Vodka....isnt it?

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    I believe its HEAVEN HILL that makes Rain Vodka....isnt it?
    No it's BT. IIRC they have a vacuum still that they use for it.

    I always wondered if that was the fifth mashbill. Thanks etohchem
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    Heaven Hill's vodka brand is Burnett's.

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    Dave Morefield
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    Dave Morefield

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  8. #18
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    Aagghh, I am wounded by your suppositions, BourbonBalls! Buffalo Trace not only produces Rain, we are THE ONLY non-boutique american distiller that produces our own grain neutral spirits for our Vodka. There are only 2 companies that produce good GNS, in my opinion(legal requirement), that supply everyone else with their spirits for vodka. Grain Processing Corporation(Muscatine IA) and Midwest Grain Products(Pekin IL).
    There are small batch companies,like Vermont Gold (good stuff) from maple sap, who produce their own, but I consider them to be very regional and boutique.

    Etohchem
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    Vodka producers?

    I think Distilled Resources in Idaho should be added to that list of GNS Vodka producers. http://www.waytogoidaho.com/main.html

    They are a contract mfg; they produce vodka for about 10 different brands.

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    By good and non-boutique I was trying to infer that these two companies supply the big boys, Smirnoff, Sky, Stoli, Gordon's, Taaka, Nikolai, store brands, and most other domestically produced, including some "quality boutique" brands. These brands do sometimes treat, redistill, filter the juice, but, IMO, that does very little to change the juice as GPC and MG both produce the purest ethanol available. In my years in the industry I have not heard of Distilled Resources nor do I know their capacity. I am sure they make a fine product. I do know for a fact that it is very very very hard to make a clean alcohol out of potatoe so it would be interesting to try their products. I also don't know which brands they supply and where it is distributed. I do know the other 2 are world wide and supply international brands as well with starting materials for gins and liqueurs.
    I also left out ADM from my list, but I included the word "good" and they make a mostly industrial grade stuff. This is strictly a personal bias against companies that are too big. My intention was not to slight any other producer (other than ADM), but to once again glorify the quality and specialness of Buffalo Trace, as Rain is made by us, for us, and has national and international distribution.

    Etohchem
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