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  1. #21
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    Well Dave, I guess I misconstrued as usual and passed on heresay and innuendo information that I can't substantiate but then that's why I added the disclaimer at the end. Can anyone tell me how to remove this Nike Swoosh from the roof of my mouth? I'll cease and desist talking about barrels of bourbon my baby blue peepers haven't encountered as though they did. Please forgive this old bourbon gossip for errant observances....
    Dane
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    Heck, I Can't Get the Stuff in Arizona, Anyway.

    Dane,

    I think I've lost track of what we're talking about -- not an infrequent occurence for me the past few years.

    At this point I hereby either grant you forgiveness or request it for myself, whichever is appropriate.

    Fini.

    Yours truly,
    Dave Morefield
    Yours truly,
    Dave Morefield

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  3. #23
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    There is no Black Maple Hill Distillery. It is an assumed business name. The Black Maple Hill products are from Kentucky Bourbon Distillers Ltd., (KBD) which despite the name is not a distiller. They do operate out of an old distillery site, formerly known as the Willett Distillery. They buy bulk whiskey, usually though not exclusively from Heaven Hill (which is located nearby).

    KBD has warehouses and does some aging for some of its products, but they primarily are a bottler and marketer. They have long range plans to get back into the distilling business, but have not done so yet.

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    Chuck,

    Thanks for the real scoop. I should have just waited for you, or some other major leaguer, to reply to post #1 in the first place.

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    Dave Morefield
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    By the way, Dave, if you want to taste a product of the Barton Distillery, you should be able to find one in your area. They make Ten High, which is a youngish, standard bourbon but generally pretty good. They also make the Ridgemont Reserve 1792, which should have reached Arizona by now.

    Since Heaven Hill's distillery is now in Louisville, Barton is actually the only operating distillery in Bardstown and it is right right smack in the middle of town too.

    Of course, the three Beam distilleries (Clermont, Boston and Loretto) are nearby, but not actually in town.

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    Chuck,

    Now that this thread has branched significantly, my reply is here.

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    Dave Morefield
    Last edited by bluesbassdad; 06-05-2006 at 17:00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowdery
    There is no Black Maple Hill Distillery. It is an assumed business name. The Black Maple Hill products are from Kentucky Bourbon Distillers Ltd., (KBD) which despite the name is not a distiller.
    Strangely, the KBD web site doesn't seem to mention BMH whiskeys at all, only their other brands.

    I was hoping to find at least a little more about these whiskeys because I am giving a talk (with samples) on bourbon at the National Homebrew Conference this coming weekend in Orlando. (Another homebrewer and I decided we could do better than the single malt talk given at the NHC two years ago, so last year we did one together - he did SMSW and I did bourbon. It had the biggest attendance of all the talks, I think, and was very well received.)

    Anyway, last year we got a sponsor to purchase the samples, so I had my choice of bourbons, and chose a standard rye recipe, a standard wheat one, and a premium. This year, they got a distributor to supply the three malts, but the only bourbons he carries are the BMH line, so he is supplying the BMH 11 and 16 year olds. Not bad, though I'd rather have more freedom.(The only wheater available from the participating liquor store is Maker's Mark, but that will do fine, I think.)

    Sadly, the information I got second hand from the distributor was that the 11 yo "might" be from "Hirsch," and the 16 yo from "Sazarac."

    Of course, that's entirely useless non-information. Are there any better guesses here?

    I've never tasted either, but I've read the comments in this thread and in some others I found through the search. Anyone have any other comments that they think might be of use? I'll try to get a sample of each before the talk, but the distributor is bringing them that day, as I understand it.

    Jeff
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    This is my first post and I am looking for some confirmation on BMH bourbon.

    Please excuse my newbie questions, I know nothing of bourbon, i'm a craft beer guy.

    My girlfriend's Dad is quite the bourbon afficionado(sp?) and ran across this bourbon while we were on vacation in Baltimore. The bottle he purchased was the 14 yr old and said it was the best thing he has ever tasted.

    So far from my searches on this website I have gathered:

    BMH is a fictitious company and uses other companies Whiskey's and outsources the bottling? Is this common?

    It is a wheat recipe? What does that entail?

    It was bottled in two different places, Lawrenceton was the older place and now in Bardstown?

    Any other information I have missed or that is incorrect please correct me.

    Also Virginia's liquor laws suck, we are state controlled and to order a special item we have to order it by the case and they charge 20%+ extra than it actually costs. Where is the best place to order it online, we have friends in WV who would be willing to receive the package for us and bring it next time we are there.

    Thanks

    Jon

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    The brand is owned by:

    CVI Brands, Inc.
    Owner: Paul Joseph
    San Carlos, CA
    650-595-1768

    The brand owner controls the marketing of the product. They have a taste profile that the Bottler selects bourbon to match. This is not uncommon, but represents a very small part of overall bourbon sales.

    It is currently bottled by Kentucky Bourbon Distillers, Ltd. This will have a Bardstown label.

    Any label that has a Lawrenceburg address on it will be whiskey from when Julian Van Winkle was the bottler. However, this was prior to least summer of 2003. So, I doubt you will see this on the shelf.

    I don't know the details of your state liquor laws. The large online retailers that ship to some states are Binny's and Sams (both in Chicago).

 

 

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