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    JTS Brown

    I am looking for jts brown bourbon as discussed in the film 'the hustler'.<br>Any information would be greatly appreciated.<br>Many thanks.<br>Mark Sinclair<br><br>Mark Sinclair

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    Re: jts brown

    See John Lipman's reply under the Fighting Cock inquiry. JTS Brown is made by Heaven Hill as well.

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    JTS Brown bourbon is, of course, what Paul Newman's character is drinking in The Hustler. Who remembers what Jackie Gleason, as Minnesota Fats, orders as his beverage? Both choices are very telling about the characters.

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    Re: jts brown

    I realize this is an ancient post of yours but a search of "The Hustler", Paul Newman, Jackie Gleason, JTS Brown and Fighting Cock turned up empty. What was "Minnesota Fats" drinking? I have even been tempted to rent the movie to find out. By the way...did they mention bourbon brands during the movie Cincinnati Kid? any other movies with bourbons prominently mentioned besides Jack or Jim?

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    Fats is drinking some kind of blended whiskey. He asks for it by name and I think we're supposed to figure out, or at least suspect, that it's a ringer, i.e., alcohol-free. The sequel, The Color of Money, begins with Fast Eddie marketing a bargain priced and, presumably, phony bourbon.

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    Re: jts brown

    thank you Chuck...by the way, what do you think of JTS Brown?

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    I haven't had it in a long time, but it's Heaven Hill whiskey, so I wouldn't expect any surprises.

    A peripheral story: many years ago I tried my hand at songwriting. Some friends of mine had a band and they picked up one of my songs. It was a thrill to hear it performed, but that was pretty much the end of that song, my songwriting career, and that band. I do, however, remember the band's name: JTS Brown.

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    I realize this is a VERY old post. I found it in a search figuring that you knowledgable Bourbonians had already discussed JTS Brown and what the brand was during the era of The Hustler. Predictably, I was not disappointed.

    I love that after Minnesota Fats asks for his liquor, a glass and some ice, Fast Eddie asks Preacher to get him a bottle of "JTS Brown...no glass...no ice." I realize this has been discussed elsewhere, but, for what it's worth, perhaps the morality lesson of The Hustler is really: don't drink straight from the bottle. At least if you're playing pool for money.

    So...has anyone figured out the name of Minnesota Fats' whiskey? I've wondered for years. It sounds something like "White Tappen Whiskey" or "White Tap and Whiskey." I thought I would finally find out when I purchased the DVD, since it has subtitles, but the subtitles omit that line!

    You mention The Color of Money, in which Fast Eddie has aged 25 or so years and presumably defeated his demon alcohol by...selling liquor and frequenting bars? Anyway, am I remembering correctly that he also sells labels of top shelf stuff that can be placed over bottom shelf bottles? Does this (presumably illegal) practice really occur? It seems that the only advantage would be falsely labeling sealed bottles; open bottles could just be cut or exchanged with other liquor. Also, the bottle and label style would have to be very similar. Finally - it's been a while since I've seen it - do I remember correctly that one of he labels is Wild Turkey, or did my fondness for WT 101 plant a false memory in my cerebral bourbon center?

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    I believe what he says is "White Tavern Whiskey", but I can find no reference to any real brand by that name.

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    It is "White Tavern" and I believe we are meant to ponder the possibility that it is a placebo, which contains no actual alcohol, that has been prepared by Fats and his associates for that purpose. He certainly shows no indication that he has consumed any alcohol as the game continues.

 

 

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