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    Re: My Memories of Kinsey Distilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    or a vessel with a personal family connection to me, the U.S.S. Arizona memorial.
    I have visited the Arizona. A very sad place, indeed.
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    Re: My Memories of Kinsey Distilling

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    Dave, it is similar to a shipwreck....think of the Titanic slowly rusting away.... or a vessel with a personal family connection to me, the U.S.S. Arizona memorial. Eventually nature will take over completely and everthing returned to its natural state. It is the way of all things. Your photos are an important historical record.
    It is so dam hard to see Kinsey this way left to rot because the wrong person bought the place to just let it rot and write it off I guess! I just wish I had more pictures of the Place like the ones from the Sale brochure from 1940 so everyone could see how these things looked back in the day and when I worked there everything was still in good shape.

    But look a page back from last nights post pictures to the one from the sale and the Old Bottle house looks so good and because fools caught it on fire back in 2002 burning a steel shed down and the fire got into the trees and the roof caught fire. And yet the building was so strong the second floor did not come down till 6 yrs later because to much snow laid on it and brought it down this winter. I walked around up there till last spring.

    And in talking to my friends who watch the place I found out why the Kinsey Barn down by the river fell down I wondered why as had a new slate roof on it back in the early 1980's well it seems that someone went in there and cut the big wood beeams out and took them and when snow laid on it brought down too.
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    Last Night I stopped to visit Ludy and gave him the original Kinsey Auction book back. We talked about the old days there and he talked about How good a place it was to work at.

    I also asked him about the Picture I posted of the Old Bottle Line in the Old Kinsey Bottle were even then were 3 lines bottling all the products listed in the Auction Book.

    I intend to write down as many as I can from my copies of the Book List of Kinsey Brands for everyone to see.
    During WWII He said the place was very Busy cranking out Alcohol for the War and feeding and raising as many Steers as they could feeding them the Mash.

    I will start tonight writing the Kinsey trade brand names what the Spirit was and Proof if shown. I was amazed at how many trade names Mr Kinsey had considering He was 75 yrs old when he reopened the plant in Late 1933.

    Anything I can find out about Kinsey and Continental will be noted whenever I find it. Ludy said it was really something when Continental Distilling started building all the Explosion Prrof Warehouses early 1940's after they bought the Plant. And how good his job was all those yrs He worked there.
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    Post Re: My Memories of Kinsey Distilling

    Well I am finally at Home and relaxing and I am now going to list many of the trade names that were listed in the Auction book as belonging to Mr Jacob G Kinsey.




    1. Phil Penn Whiskey

    2. Grand Slam Whiskey
    3. Barton Wine
    4. Barton Brandy
    5. Lone Eagle Whiskey
    6. Royal Dixie Whiskey
    7. Margate Abbey Gin
    8. Mandy Lee Wine
    9. Sonora Club Whiskey
    10. Belle of Florida Whiskey
    11. Pop Corn Whiskey
    12. Georgia Cracker Whiskey
    13. Poincianna Sherry Wine
    14. Marimore Whiskey
    15. Navarre Brandy
    16. Sun Blest Wines
    17. San Mateo Rum
    18. Beacon Hill Whiskey
    19. Evangeline Wine
    20. Marie Antoinette Cordials
    21. Golden Jubilee Wine
    22. Rochambeau Brandy
    23. Coeur de Lion Brandy
    24. G. O. Blake's Whiskey
    25. Spellmans Coronation Whiskey
    26. Honey Bee Creme de Menthe
    27. Betsy Ross Wine

    Here are some of the bottles of Whiskey that were auctioned off - 240 Pts. Old Montgomery Brand Penna Straight Rye Whiskey 86 proof 3yrs old
    84 4/5 qts Straight Californnia Fruit Brandy Slivovitz 90 proof
    120 qts G.O. Blakes Blended Whiskey 86 proof
    216 Pints Phil-Penn Pennsylvania Straight Rye Whiskey 90 proof 3 yrs old
    Milford club Blended Whiskey 90 proof 39 qts. Our Private stock Penna Straight Rye Whiskey 86 proof 30 months old
    Dolan's Bar Special Penna Straight Rye 85 proof 35 months old
    225 pints of Barton Blackberry Liquor 60 proof
    and there are so many more brands and types it is hard to believe and all the Brands are listed as gotten in the yr 1934!

    Borrowing this book and havng these copies made has really paid off in many interesting things and we must keep in mind that Mr Kinsey was going on 76 yrs old 1934 when he got these trade brands and I have not ever heard of most of them. Also there are many Barrels listed too!

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    One of the things that seems hardest to believe is that there is vertualy none of our Whiskey anywhere. When I worked there on site was at least 10 million of the original 14 million gals of Aging whiskey.

    I can't tell you how good it used to smell walking in those old Explosion proof warehouses back then. Another thing that seems wierd is that around here where our stuff sold so good you do not find anyone having any. My best guess is One it was so dam good it has all been drank up around here and two the reason you don't find any old bottles is we were so big no one ever even dreamed that they would go out of bussiness.
    And so no one saved any of the Old Bottles for collecting!

    The One thing I do know is everyone who worked there that drank bought and drank the products made where they worked. One and first of all because they were great and two for the sake of our good jobs.
    Ludy was talking the other day about checking proofs in barrels with his old Thief and wishing I could find an old one over there for him but I think most likely they went for scrap as they were solid copper when the people in there claiming they were fixing the place were stealing everything they could!

    I most likely will not get there for a bit with all the weeds and Poison Ivy but once fall comes back I will return as I always do to look take pictures and remember.

    I will also continue Looking for more Old Hickory to drink but it is very unlikely I will find anymore. I am going to call Ludy and see what other things I can find out about the Place again this week. In Sept Ludy will be 91.

    I just wish everyone here could have seen the Place back in the day. Also I am a bit worried as I have not heard from my friend yet who was a high position person in the Company so I am guessing he has not made it to Pa from Ca yet. I just have to wait to hear from him as he has my Phone number.

    And finally later this week I hope to post some more Letterhead from the Company I have from the last days of Kinsey!


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    Well I found something on Line for sale I have never seen before our Glen Mavis Blended Scotch a quart Bottle. Other then my case of empty Labeled bottles of them I have not seen a bottle of this in 25+ yrs. It is full and I bought it for my collection.

    I think it is one of the very last ones or possibley one of the very first imported and bottled in Linfield as instead of having Glen Mavis Distillers LTD Phila it says on the back Label Glen Mavis Distillers Greenwich CT which was where Our Continental Distilling Corporate Headquarters was! All the ones I have say imported by Glen Mavis Distillers LTD Phila.
    Publicker Corporate Headquarters was always in Phila making them two seperately operated companies owned by Publicker and both with Mr Neuman as Chairman.

    I have not decided if I will open it but think I will just put it with my special ones in my collection and leave it sealed. I have never seen any Glen Mavis all these years and by Luck when I typed it in there it was and I was able to buy it.

    Here are some more things from the 1940 Auction book for Kinsey that were for sale at the Auction.
    1. 12 Wood Fermenting tubs 2" wood staves, iron hooped with iron coils, inside, capacity each 8,935 1/2 gallons 55 1/2 gal per inch Nos. 1 to 12
    ( thought I remembered 12 of these being the number. Number one being filled wiith fish in the days I worked there)
    2. Lot # 238 1 steel Mash tub No1 Capacity 10,072 gal covered 2" copper coils inside, equiped with agitator driven by Howell 60 H.P. Red Band Self starting Induction Motor.
    3. Lot# 236 1 Copper Redoubling Still NO. 1 Capacity 6,750 Gal 2 sections with 3 coils 2 release valves on top 3 gate valves on side and 2 outlet valves underneath with Taylor thermometer and 2 glass gauges
    4. Lot # 235 1 steel Malt Mixer NO.1 capacity 1,822 gal equiped with agitator driven by Howell 5 hp. Red Band Motor
    5. Lot #234 1 copper Low wine tank NO.1 covered capacity 328 gal 7.81 gal per inch with two visible flow boxes 1 valve box with 9 asst. valves and intermediate copper pipe.

    I most likely will never be able to find out the total out put per day that the Old Dsp- Pa-12 could do but these tank capacities give you an Idea of what Mr Kinsey had going when Continental Distilling bought the whole Plant in 1940 at auction.

    There are many things in this auction book, these are just a few of the things that were in the #12 when Continental bought the whole plant. I am very thankful Ludy found this book and let me borrow it to record these things for History.
    There will be more posted.
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    Last edited by dave ziegler; 07-01-2009 at 03:51.

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    I will be Posting more Information like the stuff on the page before this one #516 later this week of things that were included in the 1940 Kinsey Auction Book. I thought the amount of gallons the Fermenters on the page before this is interesting I wonder if there is any way with those amounts to get an Idea what the amount that could be Distilled at Kinsey was?

    I saw in reading the Book my Mind is still working as i was sure there were 12 fermenters and the Book states that.
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    Last edited by dave ziegler; 07-01-2009 at 09:52.

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    A very interesting thing came to me from data that I want to share, when Kinsey Closed forever in 1986 it had operated 94 Years. In the early 1950's when Jacob G Kinsey Died he died at age 94.

    And Publicker which went on to buy a Flash light company and other things such as American cryogas then in the Late 1990's changing their Name to Publicard went off the stock market and came to their end with only the board left as employees in fall 2007, Publicker was Founded by Harry Publicker in 1913 it had just turned 94 years old with the new company name Publicard in 2007 even though just a small tiny company after all the mistakes made after Mr Neuman died back in 1976.

    A very Weird thing is that each lasted only 94 years first Mr kinsey Then Kinsey Distillery and then Publicker / Publicard. And all at exactly 94 yrs. I was amazed when I did the math on Publicker as I knew for a long time about 94 yrs for Mr Kinsey and the Kinsey Plant.

    Fact can sure be stranger then Fiction.
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    Last edited by dave ziegler; 07-02-2009 at 06:32.

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    Re: My Memories of Kinsey Distilling

    Just for fun I have tried to find various "94" meanings:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/94_(number)

    "The 94th United States Congress met from January 1975 - January 1977 during the President Gerald Ford’s administration."

    http://www.topverses.com/?book=19&chapter=94&pg=1
    Psalms....hmm, do any apply to Kinsey / Publicker?

    http://www.muslimaccess.com/quraan/arabic/094.asp
    Koran - Surah 94
    Ash Sharh
    Surah 94. Solace, Consolation, Relief

    Bhagavad Gita 9.4
    "By Me, in My unmanifested form, this entire universe is pervaded. All beings are in Me, but I am not in them."

    http://www.areopagus.net/grkelements.htm
    Plutonium
    Symbol: Pu
    Atomic Number: 94
    After the planet Pluto and the Latin god of the Underworld (Hades in Greek).

    http://www.virtuescience.com/94.html
    The Number 94

    Elijah Craig Bourbon whisky 94 proof 12 yrs 750 ml
    Jack Daniel's Whiskey Single Barrel 94 Proof
    Vintage Bourbon Kentucky Bourbon 23 Years Old 94 Proof
    Vintage Rye Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey 21 Years Old 94 Proof
    Vintage Rye Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey 23 Years Old 94 Proof

    Dave, I am sure the answer lies buried somewhere above!

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    Late Yesterday afternoon I got the Vintage Bottle of Glen Mavis Scotch I bought on Line last week on Looking at the Bottom for yr date it is one of the very last to ever be Bottled in Linfield, Pa at Kinsey!

    I thought it most likely was because the Back label Says Glen mavis Distillers Greenwich CT which was Continental Distillings Headquarters back in the day and since they were going out of the Liquor Bussiness they had started making universal Case Boxes you could stick the Label on a spot on the case to show what product was in it.

    Those cardboard Case Boxes of Which I have about 3 Say Instead of Continental Distilling " Publicker Distillers". This is the only Bottle of this product I have ever seen that Has greenwich on it all the Labeled ones I have in a case and Trade Show ones have Glen Mavis Distillers Phila Pa.

    Many things happened in those last days including a bad batch of Governors Club Blended Whiskey I have letters I got from the Plant asking why their Bottle smells weird! Alot of sad things Happened after Mr Neuman died and the Family did not control the company any more.

    I also found many Letters pleading for more product as they were out of something and could not get it anymore, them not yet knowing the Company was gone as far as Drinking Liquor.

    Some of The letters Ask for Caffe Lolita others for Old Hickory and Many other brands. It is very hard to find Old Continental Distilling Bottles even though we were the Biggest of all Distillers back then. I think becausee of the Fact we were so big no one ever thought our Bottles would be collectable. Many times I find lots of smaller Distillers Old Bottles but you would think there would be tons of ours here in pa but it seems not!
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