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  1. #11
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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    I echo the comments of many here.

    This is a very good bourbon and one I choose when I unexpectedly find it in bars (certainly over the typical JBW and MM). But it is not as complex and interesting as OGD 114, which is what I would choose when in a liquor store.
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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    OGD BIB 100 proof is the bourbon whiskey that really lit my fire for bourbon. The old-fashioned orange label and screw cap, the historical 100 proof, the fact that it makes no apologies for what it is, all add up to being my favorite everyday bourbon pour, bar none.

    Comparing this OGD BIB to say WT101, I'd say that OGD definitely has more of an introductory kick to both the nose and the pallet. WT101 is a little more "rounded" in that the corn is more noticeable to me and subdues the rye, which perhaps makes the WT101 a little more of a balanced drink. OGD's rye stands out and offers a beautiful nose and nice hearty initial strength in the first taste, and then keeps that same strength in each subsequent drink. I personally don't buy OGD BIB 100 proof for its balance-I buy it for its outstanding aroma and taste, not to mention the image of one of the most famous names in bourbon. When I want a rye-strong bourbon, this is the one I reach for; and when I want an everyday bourbon, this is the one I reach for.

    This bourbon, on ice or with good ginger ale, accompanies Texas barbecue very well, in my opinion. It also goes well with other simple country-style cuisine. I hope Jim Beam allows this bourbon to continue to set the tone for old-fashioned bourbons. We OGD drinkers and fans should make sure Jim Beam knows how we feel!

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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    I'm a big fan of this classic bourbon. For some reason it reminds me a little of apple pie, but I must be crazy
    Chris/Oregon

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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    Good choice for BOTM, Jeff.

    I've got one here I mentioned in another thread recently, it is a BIB '71-'80. Despite the 9 years of age it tastes younger and probably aged slowly because of its location in the warehouse.

    Color is medium, old gold. It's got a fairly heavy, almost metallic nose, dry though, not sweet/peanut brittle.

    The taste is dry again and "wheaty" or grainy rather. It doesn't have the yeasty-like finish (if that's the right word) I find in current OG but a clean, grainy depth and smooth finish.

    A fine U.S. whiskey, the closest I can think of today in this vein is Booker's maybe, or Baker's. It doesn't taste like those modern exemplars of the Beam taste, yet it does.

    Gary
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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    I just spent 10 days in Las Vegas, while I was there I bought a single glass of AH Hirsch blue Wax for $13. I also bought a bottle of OGD BIB for $13. Both were exceptional values. Those were the only two purchases I made during that trip that I would consider to be "values", all of the rest varied from "Just OK" to "ripoff". $10 for a single shot of JDSB at the Hard Rock was at the bottom of my value list.

    OGD BIB is the best value in Bourbon today. Hot, Spicy, full of character, full mouth feel, it is one fine pour.

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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    Other than the difference in proof, is the OGD 86 significantly different from the BIB? My local store has the 86, but not the 100.

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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    The key word is "significant." Relative to Jim Beam (which makes OGD), Grand-Dad is a very small brand. It's possible they make a "batch" -- that is, they dump the necessary number of barrels -- reduce it to 114 proof, bottle what they need of that, reduce to 100 proof, bottle what they need of that, then cut it to 86 for the rest. However, since there are requirements for the "bonded" expression that don't apply to the others, it's possible they do them separately. Normally, the different proof expressions of a brand don't have their own individual profiles, it's the same stuff with more water. My guess would be that's the case with OGD.

    After laying out the possibilities my answer, unfortunately, is "I don't know." However, if you would like to try Old Grand-Dad -- and I think most here agree that you should -- and the bond isn't available to you, then by all means try the 86. Grand-Dad is unique because of the yeast and the mash bill, which should come through regardless of proof.

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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    I love OGD BIB. The rye character is definitely out front, and I've recently come across a couple of older bottlings in which this is supposedly even more true. I eagerly await the chance to find out.

    I also recently came across an 86-proof from the ND era that has an age statement of 8 years. My guess is that the age is significantly more than current 86-proof bottlings, but a side-by-side tasting should shed light on that.

    I think at any proof OGD is a great expression of in-your-face rye character balanced by more traditional bourbon richness and depth. I prefer the BIB to the OGD 114, mostly because when consumed neat, it seems to embody the depth of the 114 and the dangerously drinkable genius of the 86-proof.

    And darkluna, I think the apple pie comparison is apt. Spicy-sweet and rich, comforting and warming without being insipid or over-the-top. There is a definite note of clove and cinnamon in the nose especially, and the sweetness of the middle complements it to create an experience akin to, yes, a good slice of apple pie. Now I'm hungry...

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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    This is my first bottle of OGD BIB, and my first go around with BOTM. OGD is deeeeeelicious!!! Sorry I waited so long, a new favorite as of today. Tried it with a few drops of water and with ginger ale. Loved it both ways, in fact best bourbon and ginger ale ive ever had. Slightly dilluted, again perfect. I might be crazy but to me it tasted like a 70% JBB, 30% MM vatting. I love all Beam bourbons though, so glad seeing this on BOTM pushed me toward a purchase.

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    Re: BOTM, 1/07: Old Grand Dad BIB

    Quote Originally Posted by EphSooner View Post
    Other than the difference in proof, is the OGD 86 significantly different from the BIB? My local store has the 86, but not the 100.
    Chuck gave you plenty of info, and I agree that you should try to 86, if that's what you have. We tend to focus on the other bottlings here, but the 86 is a fine base bourbon, far better I IMHO than the Jim Beam white, which is usually a buck or two more. And if you are still reluctant to spring for a 750 ml bottle, a little searching might produce a smaller container; I have a 200 ml of the 86 that is waiting for the right trip to go in the overnight bag.

    Bob

 

 

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