Van Winkle Family Reserve 13 rye

[Virus_Of_Life]

I don't know that it was ever a mixture. It started out as the Medley, made in Owensboro, then switched to the COK when the Medley ran out. The COK was made at old Bernheim in 1987.

I've had it in my head that the Medley was mixed with the COK, but I cannot find evidence to that and can't recall where I heard it now. I'll keep searching.

Ah ha! Here this thread http://www.straightbourbon.com/forum...ghlight=tanked Thanks to Timothy of course for cataloging all this info!

Originally from this thread:
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forum...light=marriage

"Yep-that sounds correct. S/W never distilled any rye for me or anybody. The present rye in the F & G bottles is a marriage of two different rye distillations. We hope to continue bottling the presently tanked rye for another 11 years, unless it starts going south in the tank.
We hope to start bottling BT rye in about 11 years.
Julian"

[jinenjo]

Let's hope somebody has some rye in the pipeline shooting for a 10+ year old expression sometime soon. I hope, I hope, I hope.

The optimist in me does say that something rye-ey is coming soon...

We hope to start bottling BT rye in about 11 years.
Julian"

According to my math, that means 2017. Not soon enough in my book. You'd think there's something out there. I still don't get it, that Sam's had a 10 yr of Saz Jr. and yet there's no more such bottlings (commercial or private) out there to meet our demands.

I'm wondering if all or most of the 10+ y.o. rye is being held for utra-premium bottles, like 20+ year olds.

[bluesbassdad]

Dave, it sounds to me like you're talking about Hirsch 16.

And, lest any whippersnapper think that you wouldn't know the difference, I submit this chestnut that you authored in the early days of the forum

And, to edit a second time, I believe you had a Hirsch bottling of Van Winkle rye at one time, as well.

Ah, yes! The the gold foil bottling of Hirsch 16 had not occurred when I made that comparison. The bottling I referred to there was the gold wax.

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Right you are regarding my confusion.

I'm afraid one drink a month isn't sufficient to refresh memories acquired during the last decade or so.

I've never had a less than stellar bottle with the words "Van Winkle" on it.

I haven't had my July drink yet. I think it's gonna be one of the Van Winkles.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

[Virus_Of_Life]

The optimist in me does say that something rye-ey is coming soon...



According to my math, that means 2017. Not soon enough in my book. You'd think there's something out there. I still don't get it, that Sam's had a 10 yr of Saz Jr. and yet there's no more such bottlings (commercial or private) out there to meet our demands.

I'm wondering if all or most of the 10+ y.o. rye is being held for utra-premium bottles, like 20+ year olds.

Lear, what I am hoping is that when Julian joined BT they distilled some Rye using a mashbill different than Saz Jr/Handy. Or a different yeast, either way something different that would get them closer to the flavor profile of the original Medley Rye/COK Rye because I think we all can agree that however great the Saz Jr is, the flavor is very different from Medley/COK VW Rye.

[Phischy]

Where can I get this in San Diego? I've only ever seen 1 bottle, that I bought, and it was several years back!

[DeanSheen]

Any idea when this is going to be released in 2010? The last 2 years have been a big mystery as to when it's hitting shelves.

I'd love to know so I could be sure to get some.

[funknik]

Any idea when this is going to be released in 2010? The last 2 years have been a big mystery as to when it's hitting shelves.

I'd love to know so I could be sure to get some.

I think it's kind of a crapshoot -- they came into Mass last year about Thanksgiving time . . . I got two and just opened my first today -- sooo delicious!

[Lost Pollito]

I think it's kind of a crapshoot --

Yep. Kinda like trying to catch Bigfoot.

[CaptainQ]

Any idea when this is going to be released in 2010? The last 2 years have been a big mystery as to when it's hitting shelves.

I'd love to know so I could be sure to get some.

From the man himself:

"We usually ship our larger allocation in September/October each year. We also ship a smaller allocation out in mid-March.
What we ship of each age each year depends upon how many barrels we happen to have available each year. The amounts will vary from year to year.
I would say an average would be about 500 cases of each age each year.
Thanks very much for your business."
Regards,
Julian Van Winkle

[DeanSheen]

Thanks all and good idea going to the man Captain.

I'll just keep stalking. I'm still haunted by an opportunity 2 years ago I had to buy a case right when I got into this hobby. I messed around for a few weeks then my opportunity was gone. It was the old 'if I knew then what I knew now' situation that I of course botched.

I have 4 or 5 in the bunker but it just does not seem like enough.