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    BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    Well, It's been about 6 months since we last visited Casa Van Winkle(TM) in the BOTM club, and our members are jonesing for more. This month let's take a close look at a staple of the VW collection: The 12yo Lot "B".

    Though the source of the whiskey may have changed, Julian and Preston have once again delivered a quality product deserving of the compliments it receives. Some have even said that they prefer the new version over past iterations, but we're not naming names.

    Discussion is open to all manner and style of this bourbon, even the increasingly rare "Van Blankle." Let us know what you prefer!

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    Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    I'm on record as describing the 'Van Blankle' Lot B as second to none, most prominently here:
    http://www.straightbourbon.com/forum...48&postcount=1

    I'm also recorded stating I find a recognizable difference between the original S-W versions and the current Bernheim-distilled bottlings, preferring the former, while still appreciating the latter.

    The vicissitudes of its universal $10 price jump 12-18 months ago, and my deliberate effort at shelf-clearing, leave me with only the last quarter of an open Van Blankle by which to revisit the Lot B currently. I'll muddle through.

    I'm noting a bit of white walnut (butternut) tonight that I've never recognized in this before, but it is not bitter like many nut-shell essences can be, and thus is not in the least disquieting. Interesting.
    Last edited by TNbourbon; 08-06-2007 at 19:52.
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    Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    Alas, I have not seen any of this on a shelf(even in KY!) in a while, and my last bottle of L'burg is reserved for comparison with BT-distilled stock, when it comes online. This leaves me with nothing but memories for the time being...and damn plesant memories they are...the ones of Van Blankle are especially warm.
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    Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    Is the "Van Blankle" a Lawrenceburg bottling?
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    Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    I've only seen this 1x on any shelf here in San Diego, and I bought it. Talk about good timing! This weekend I'll have to give this a go. Although, what (If any) markings on the label will mark this as a S-W bottling? It was next to 2 bottles of GTS '06 so this may have been sitting on the shelf about a year.

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    Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    Quote Originally Posted by Phischy View Post
    I've only seen this 1x on any shelf here in San Diego, and I bought it. Talk about good timing! This weekend I'll have to give this a go. Although, what (If any) markings on the label will mark this as a S-W bottling? It was next to 2 bottles of GTS '06 so this may have been sitting on the shelf about a year.
    hmm....didn't figure Lot B to be difficult to find. Here in VA is fairly plentiful. Now I'm thinking I may have to go out and scope out the local ABC's to see if it is indeed getting low in supply. I have one bottle in bunker and just polished off a bottle. Me thinks adding a bottle or two is a good idea.
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    Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    Ok, so I went bourbon hunting for the first time. 1st store was a bust, but here in so cal I saw #2 and #3 of the stuff. Hanging out 'with the boys' and hoping to turn them onto the good stuff, I opened and shared. Mind you, this is my spare bottle, another one "in the bunker". Nose of caramel and then a lot of spice. which I love, the guys, didn't.

    Now, I'm a big fan of KC....I detected a very spicy intial hit, followed by a clean finish. very much in what I look for. I'll probably go buy the 3rd bottle. In San Diego this stuff is apparently a little on the rare side. Bevmo does not carry it, and most small shops don't either. So for $40 a bottle it's worth it for the bunker.

    This entire tasting is under the influence of a night of San Diego Pale Ales (aka the double IPA).

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    Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    Quote Originally Posted by Phischy View Post

    This entire tasting is under the influence of a night of San Diego Pale Ales (aka the double IPA).

    SDPA I think that the SDPA is one of the greatest accomplishment of the USA Micro-movement.

    Just the choice of Breweries and Brewpubs in SD makes me want to move there. Pizza Port(both), Port Brewing -Lost Abbey, Alesmith, Stone, Green Flash, Alpine Beer, Ballast Point,.......so many. Send me some growlers.
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    Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    Hey Joe, the "Van Blankle" was bottled in September '04 in Frankfort. It was from a barrel I selected that summer distilled at Old Fitz in March '92. In hindsight, I should have bought several barrels!

    It produced 17 cases. Only two cases left. It will make an appearance at this years Fest once again.

    It is rich caramel without being too sweet. And lots of pie spice to me (which I have noted in other Lot B's).....someone once described it as pumpkin pie spice which I think is accurate. I also get cotton candy in the middle. I would characterize it as a silky, creamy almost ethereal style versus the in-your-face style you might find in a heavily ryed bourbon at 12yo.

    Of Julian's current non-SW bottlings, I may actually prefer the 10yo/107 slightly to the Lot B but enjoy them both. Neither are easy to find right now in Houston.

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    Thumbs up Re: BOTM 8/07: Van Winkle 12yo Lot "B"

    I finally opened the bottle of Lot B that I recently purchased. As a recent purchase, it may be Bernheim stock.

    Whatever its provenance, it is mighty fine stuff. I had a pour of it, and I'm now working on a pour of a 2007-purchased Pappy 15 for comparison. The profile is pretty similar (honey/vanilla/spice), with the PVW 15 being a bit spicier and the Lot B more honeyed. Both have very satisfying finishes, too.

    One mystery on both the Lot B and the PVW 15: some numbers in the lower right corner of the Lot B label, and the lower left of the PVW label.

    Lot B: 04.6081
    PVW 15: 04.6071.01

    They have no relationship to the UPC numbers. It's easy to assume that 04 is the bottling year, but that may be far from the case.
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