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    Post Re: The Kinsey Fire Observation Room

    The more I walk around Kinsey and look at things I am amazed at all the things that were in place to prevent fires. They went beyond just the law and because of that forethought we never had any fires or injuries from fire. To this day there are hundreds old Co'2 fire extingusers everywhere and of course the vandels like to dig them out and throw them.

    We had containment walls that were so good a setup that they are on par for modern ones like where I work today. Around the big 1/2 million gal tanks we had walls and drains to take the whiskey if there was a spill, away to another area tank by drains and pumps.

    At the end they had 2 fire trucks as I discovered by a old picture after the place was abandon. Of course our Explosion proof warehouses had the fire escape system at the back of each building and we had our monthly fire drills at the most fire prone area's of the plant and of course the Fire Observation tower from which you could see all area's of the plant.

    All this planing started under the idea's of Si Neuman and our great engineer Joe Trisch who did 90% of all the drawing and blue prints for plant projects.

    We thankfully never had any near fire's ever in those years and there was never any loss of life at our Kinsey plant!
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    About two weeks ago I got to walk around Kinsey and here is a picture of the only other Fire escape that was different! This one is different because O building served as the Government Offices besides being where they distilled water for the Whiskey, had our Lunch room and was the only explosion proof warehouse with windows! The picture is of it at the back facing the Bottling House!

    O building was One of a kind in all its design from the rest, Q buildings only was different in it having the totally differnt Fire Observation room tower! The rest of Explosion proof warehouse Q was just like the other 12 of 14.

    I try to get as many pictures of the buildings as I can for History sake as I want the Warehouses to be seen by People as long as History continues!
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    I walked around Kinsey Yesterday after I donated the Barrel and here are 3 shots I got through the Partly open door of Old Kinsey Warehouse H the last one ever built by Jacob G Kinsey.

    1. The last intact Freight Elevator left is this one in H warehouse the others have fallen to pieces. This was the Last wood and brick Warehouse built by Jacob G Kinsey
    2. Looking down through the warehouse
    3. looking to the right at the racks!

    This is the only one of the Old warehouses that still is not completly done for and it is sad. I remember well what happen if you put to many barrles on these you would crash to the floor! Also to go tto the upper levels to a certain point you had to either climb a wooden ladder or Ride the freight elevator as close as you could get then go up the ladder. And you better be fairly thin.

    These warehouses when I started there had a wealth of vintage whiskeys and it was warehouse E where I had my first Rittenhouse Rye from the barrel. I am sure glad I got to do this job back in the day.

    It was a fun job even though hard and if you love whiskey you loved the smells of all the warehouses!
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    In one of the strangest querks of fate maybe around 2001 or there abouts the Fire observation room warehouse Q and warehouse I two of the 14 explosion proof warehouses were put to the test by Vandels when large fires where started in them. Q Warehouse got so hot that the glass melted out of the fire tower room! Then the fire company smashed in a big hole in the wall where there had been some old corn whiskey barrels on the third floor that had enough residue that the vandels got the fire going. Even after smashing in the section of wall Q building remains strong I was on its roof a couple of years ago and it is still a very strong building.

    Warehouse I at one time had pallets of Liquor stacked 22 feet high in one of its corners. Many years before I got back to Kinsey, a fire burned everything to dust and burned out with no one but the Vandels knowing when this happen.

    But the only damage to the Building inside is a tiny bit of chipped Brick nothing else. If nothing else this proves How very Good these explosion proof warehouses were built under the Leadership of Mr Si Neuman.

    No fire escaped from them they are both still strong and if the fire company had knocked the wall out in that spot the only damage is glass melting and bricks chipping. These were as good as good could be for safety and containment and as they say where I work now Containment and safety are the name of the game.

    What a tribute to Kelly for brick and Mc Cluskie builders from Phila back in those days, and the forthought of Mr Neuman when they bought Kinsey in 1940!

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    This morning I was thinking about my second year working in the Yard Gang at Kinsey. One of our duties Winter and summer started then and was the job of hauling what were the barrel racks out of the warehouses as they were cut.

    It took a powerful Welding Rod cutter to cut the welds to take the racks apart. They were taken apart in sections so that if ever wanted again they could be put back together.

    During these times Both Cal Roberts Fire Chief and asstant Harry Martin would be on Fire watch with many types of Extinguers to prevent any chance of Fire. Doors to lobby's were shut to prevent any fumes from other floors getting involed.

    It was a long and hard job that never was completely done while Publicker owned the place the last racks being taken out was by the people who took anything of value all the while claiming they were going to build a Propane power plant there till the deal went down and they left what was of Kinsey in Ruin even knocking down the DSP-Pa-12 Still for metal to make money from.

    We would haul the parts of the Racks down to the Old steer pens going down toward the river and put them under the roof's.
    Calvin Roberts worked at Kinsey over 40 years and was a great fire Chief and a very good man.

    Our Yard gang then was Myself,Eddie Pinder, Bill Albright, Valintine Celenie and George Rhoads and Our Boss John Zuber. We used an Old Ford 8-N tractor and a farm wagon to haul the frames down back and we would spend about half a day doing this sometimes.

    It took the whole crew to carry the Uprights and we had to turn them side ways to get them out the front roll doors. It was hard work but it had to be done and later in the day there were lots of other things to do depending on the season.

    Bill Albright was a character every day for his lunch He brought a Lettuce sandwitch for his lunch. Sometimes he liked a shot with his lettuce sandwitch.

    During the cutting of Rack uprights Calvin Roberts would have the fire truck right there ready. Every week Cal & Harry Martin and Stan Stofoniwitz the complete fire dept would go around the plant opening hydrents and testing valves.

    They would run water to test presure and also would travel from time to time up into the Fire observation room to look around the plant especialy during dry Hot summers!

    The fire prevention record at Kinsey was Perfect and there were never any fires during its years of Operation.
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    This past weekend I was a guest at The Limerick Historic society and I took some stuff to show how the place operated and what it looked like back in the day.

    To preserve History I was able to get many differant Explosion proof and weather Proof light switches from the Plant and the company Electrian where I work wired them after I decided and put the sets together. One of the biggest reasons the plant so so safe was the way the electric's were layed out.

    Going into one of the waerhouses you would have red pilot lights telling you there was power on the dock.

    Next you would go into the first floor Stairwell and throw a really big Lever.

    Next whatever floor you went into when you got through the door to the bonded warehouse racks you would throw switches and pilot lights would come on with the Lights and other stuff. Also all plugs for lifts were explosion proof and all forklift Charging places had explosion proof plugs.

    1. Sets of Pilot lights and switches at the back of my office made like the electiral headers on the walls going into the bonded warehouse area.
    2. Rare late 1930's Explosion proof Candle shaped light these alot of times were mounted on a pipe and had an explosion proof cord to be able to be hung in front of a console that had no light. I made two of my 3 into Lampes to use in my office at back of my office. They have a spring at the top to hold the tube like 25 watt bulb shock absorbed. I also have one that is on the rod and I will post a picture of it soon.
    3. Differant types of Explosion proof switchs and pilot lights. Switch number 3 from the right is a rare General Electric Explosion proof switch with built in Lock out and a plug in the side where Cheeko was shot in to seal it from vapors. The Electrian at work told me about cheeko it dryed after you sprayed it in and sealed everything from sparks that might get in somehow it dryed bright white!
    4. A closeup of some of the switches, The Big throw switch one is from warehouse O and ran the pumps to pump whiskey from O to the Bottle house by overhead stainlees line to be filtered and bottled there.
    5.Another of my Explosion proof candle shaped lights wired by the electrian and the base made by Brain the shipper in the plant. Sitting on my desk
    6. Another darker shot of my Lamp.
    7. Switches on my desk the little ones are weather proof and the bigger ones explosion proof. The one with the brass pull shaft weatherproof, is from the late 1890's and was in the Maintiance Barn built by Jake Kinsey in 1892.is
    6th one from the left,the 5th one weather proof was one of the Dock light switches from Warehouse R it turned on the dock light outside. The first switch from the left is also a 1930's switch type explosion proof and the one next to it was down in the Old Weight and scale building at the back of the plant.
    I found it broken off the wall laying in the rain by vandels and frozen up. I spent 3 days freeing it up and the switch inside solid brass mounted in Ceramic was like new so I was able to use it. It now is safe here in my office. Some of these switches are one of a kind others there are allot but the 1930's and late 1890's ones are one of a kind!

    Many Thanks To Paul for wiring these one of a kind lights for history, this may seem odd but these were as much a part of the operation as the Whiskey stored there and the Distilling that happened there till mid 1951.
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    One of the most amazing things about Kinsey was the fact that in all of its 94 years of operation till 1939 Mr Kinsey, and till 1986 Continental Distilling there was never even anything close to a fire.

    I credit this to the way Kinsey was built up after Continental Bought it at auction in 1940. When kinsey was laid out every Building was surounded by Fire Hydrents when built and each explosion proof Warehouse spaced the same distance apart. Each had special Fire doors leading to the little escape porches that went into the Fire escapes.

    The fire escapes were not open at all to the rooms behind them except if you went by the little porches.

    Then they had the forsight to put the Fire tower on the back of Warehouse Q which sat on the highest part of the plant and had great views in all directions.

    I just lately found paper work about the Big water pump out back in the woods and found out it was put there just after I left Kinsey I will post the paper work some time soon.

    Down in the woods out back where they had two more 1/2 million gal tanks the woods is filled with old Fire Hydrents and all the buildings had more then you could count of Fire Extingusers and also water Hoses on valves on the pillers and large pipes to bring the water in event of a fire to them in all the warehouse areas. Also all warehouses were heavy sprinkled.

    Everything near fumes had explosion proof switches and pilot lights to check for power. Going into the warehouse each dock had pilot lights for each floor so you knew what was going on before you went in, also security could monitor them on their rounds.

    Next you went into the stair well and threw a large switch, then you would throw switches on the Electric Headers in the warehouse storage area's. All outside switches were water proof even in the old Maintaince Barn 1892. Continental Thought of everything.

    At the end they Had 2 fire trucks and also the large blue Water tank besides the two water towers. And walking around the Old Kinsey wood and brick warehouses you will find that they all had below the level giant Pipes and were completely Sprinkled when Continental bought Kinsey.

    Finally there were the Monthly Fire drills performed around all the Old Kinsey Buildings to make sure that they and the Local fire company Linfield Fire company were ready for anything they could think of.

    I am filled with great pride thinking about the time I worked for this great Company and deep sadness at its terrible end. When you think about the miles of Stainless piping going from warehouse to warehouse that had dump troughs and then to the Bottle house and never any leaking pipes that could cause explosion it was an amazing record for that time period.

    Four 1/2 million Gal storage tanks safely operated all those years and 11 operating bottle lines in the big bottle house with one line, A-1-F able to do 40,000 bottles a day it is an awesome safety record. Also the old Kinsey bottle house operated from the mid 1930's continously till 1979 and never had a fire or explosion.
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    One of my Favorite memories was when The Kinsey Fire Dept Chief would take the Old Mack Fire truck for a ride around the plant.

    His Name was Calvin Roberts and His asistant was Harry Martin. They would ride from one end to the other and Blow the Old siran and blow the Big horns. It was a fun thing to see during Work hours. Every day they would go to one of the Buildings they had a list to check them off and open Hydrants and test valves, and open them and run water.

    Kinsey Had a great Fire Protection system and many buildings had Pyrotronics lighted fire warning systems panels. Also there were Hundreds apon Hundreds of Fire Extinguesrs. And of course the Fire Observation room on top of Warehouse Q at the High Point of the plant.

    Thankfully everything worked well and we never had any Fires. Also as I have stated before every month the Company had employee's trained to fight Fires do drills with the Linfield Fire Dept. Most times at the Old Buildings out front and the Operating Liquor Bottle House out front that Jake Kinsey built which served the company till the very last day!

    Publicker when they bought Kinsey paid and had all the Old wood and brick Warehouses fully sprinklered they put giant main pipes down in the space below the racks and ran sprinklers all through them to the very top of the racks.

    When Cal would drive the Old Truck sometimes he and Harry would wear Firemans Hats just for the fun of it. The Old Mack did not have a roof in the driver area it was an old Open truck that Publicker upgraded every year and at the end they had two trucks.
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    I decided to post a few more shots from this weekend as I enjoyed shooting the pictures so much and I did not want to wait till monday to share more so here are 7 more of my Sat shots on this thread.
    1. Looking from the end of the bottling lines in room c back toward the lines
    2. Moving to Warehouse R here is a shot Of some never used Caffe Lolita Cases filled with never used bottles
    3. Plalet of Continental Black berry Brandy boxes never used. Continental always bought years ahead to avoid being stuck by shortages of bottles and boxes
    4. One of The Brandy Boxes
    5. Hallers Vodka case Box
    6. Now back to the bottle house, Whiskey Heater #2 at far back end of the bottle house where lines started on the Platform back there
    7. Whiskey Heater #1 on platform.

    I am glad I was able to post many of my Pictures today and hope to post more soon.

    Looking through the 1966 Bottle house in the pictures I have posted gives you an idea of how big it was and how modern for its time!
    I hope everyone enjoys the pictures posted here and on the other two threads.
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    I have been thinking alot about the amazing safety we had at Kinsey it was always Publicker's most safe plant and everything was designed for safety. To this day I am amazed at all the fire extingusers I see around there hundreds apon hundreds. Hoses Hydrents even down in the woods and lots of water capascity to fight fires.

    Add to that the Fire tower at the High point of the plant and the Pyrotronic's panels in bottling, the fire house and some other buildingss to inform if a fire should start in a building it is a very impressive thing. Plus 2 fire engines tests on all the water valves every week we were ahead of alot of Distilleries those days as far as safety went and being the worlds largest then we should have been.

    Mr Neuman did not take short cuts on safety and our record at Kinsey Proves it.

    Here are a few more pictures from 3 weeks ago
    1. The Old Grain Silo's going into the plant
    2. Motors in back tank platform area bottling house
    3. Pallet of Philadelphia Blended Whiskey Boxes never used warehouse R
    4. Picture of Warehouse R in Black and White.
    I hope these pictures posted today on all 3 threads are enjoyable for everyone and that they keep the History of Kinsey alive!
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