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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    Quote Originally Posted by unclebunk View Post
    Will do, Edo. It is now officially on my Christmas list. Hard to imagine whisky so good, isn't it? But Laphroaig is doing an excellent job these days and I can't get enough of their stuff. All I need to do now is find any easy bank to knock off so that I can afford everything I want!
    Although you and I may differ politically, we usually see eye to eye on whiskey. This is an exception. I think Laphroaig has been "dumbed down" slowly over the last 30 years or so. The Laphroaig of today is a mere hint of the Laphroaig of the 70s or 80s. Especially the 10. While the seaweed and iodine is still there, it has been greatly reduced. Their master blender told me this was done intentionally to make it "more acceptable" to a greater number of people. Some think this is a good thing. I (and others) think that he destroyed the Laphroaig that we knew and loved. We begged him to recreate the old Laphroaig, put it in a different package, raise the price (if need be) and sell it for those of us who love and miss the medicinal briny taste that was so distinctly Laphroaig. However if I had to choose one whisky to drink for the rest of my life, after some deliberation, I'd probably sitill choose Laphroaig 10 over the 15, and over Lagavulin and Ardbeg.

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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    I just finished a bottle of Laphroaig that was bottled in 1970 (based on the tax stamp date) and had a chance to compare it to the current 10 and cask strength. While far better than the current 10 the cask strength with just a few drops of water seem to give it a good run. Not quite as salty but a better overall balance IMO. However, the old bottle certainly had all the elements I remembered from when I started my scotch journey in the early 70's and I wouldn't mind finding another.
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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    Quote Originally Posted by AVB View Post
    I just finished a bottle of Laphroaig that was bottled in 1970 (based on the tax stamp date) and had a chance to compare it to the current 10 and cask strength. While far better than the current 10 the cask strength with just a few drops of water seem to give it a good run. Not quite as salty but a better overall balance IMO. However, the old bottle certainly had all the elements I remembered from when I started my scotch journey in the early 70's and I wouldn't mind finding another.
    Is this the bottle you told me about a year or two ago? You invited me to taste it if I was ever in PA but I never made it up there. Thanks for the description. It tells me my memory serves me well, but not too well. It was definitely better, but not as much better as I seem to remember, is that correct?

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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    That's the one, and yes it was better but not astoundingly so. The CS is close but not quite the same.
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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stu View Post
    I think Laphroaig has been "dumbed down" slowly over the last 30 years or so. The Laphroaig of today is a mere hint of the Laphroaig of the 70s or 80s. Especially the 10. While the seaweed and iodine is still there, it has been greatly reduced. Their master blender told me this was done intentionally to make it "more acceptable" to a greater number of people. Some think this is a good thing. I (and others) think that he destroyed the Laphroaig that we knew and loved. We begged him to recreate the old Laphroaig, put it in a different package, raise the price (if need be) and sell it for those of us who love and miss the medicinal briny taste that was so distinctly Laphroaig. However if I had to choose one whisky to drink for the rest of my life, after some deliberation, I'd probably sitill choose Laphroaig 10 over the 15, and over Lagavulin and Ardbeg.
    Stu, what, in your opinion, comes close to the Laphroaig in current offerings? I've found Talisker to be a hearty dram, and it calls to the imagination a bit of what you feel is lacking (my speculation) in the Laphroaig.

    In any case, tonight I had a small pour of Highland Park 12. Nice, a little peppery, but I'm not getting any salt or smoke that others refer to. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow. Was gifted a bottle of Glenmorangie, 10 yo I think, with a nice glass and a mini of the LaSanta. I'll give that one a whirl tomorrow.

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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna56 View Post
    Stu, what, in your opinion, comes close to the Laphroaig in current offerings? I've found Talisker to be a hearty dram, and it calls to the imagination a bit of what you feel is lacking (my speculation) in the Laphroaig.

    In any case, tonight I had a small pour of Highland Park 12. Nice, a little peppery, but I'm not getting any salt or smoke that others refer to. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow. Was gifted a bottle of Glenmorangie, 10 yo I think, with a nice glass and a mini of the LaSanta. I'll give that one a whirl tomorrow.

    Cheers!
    Highland Park definitely isn't as smoky now as the first time I tasted it. I had some the other night and didn't notice any peat influence until the finish.

    I think if you want something intensely smoky you could try Dun Bheagan Islay.

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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stu View Post
    Although you and I may differ politically, we usually see eye to eye on whiskey. This is an exception. I think Laphroaig has been "dumbed down" slowly over the last 30 years or so. The Laphroaig of today is a mere hint of the Laphroaig of the 70s or 80s. Especially the 10. While the seaweed and iodine is still there, it has been greatly reduced. Their master blender told me this was done intentionally to make it "more acceptable" to a greater number of people. Some think this is a good thing. I (and others) think that he destroyed the Laphroaig that we knew and loved. We begged him to recreate the old Laphroaig, put it in a different package, raise the price (if need be) and sell it for those of us who love and miss the medicinal briny taste that was so distinctly Laphroaig. However if I had to choose one whisky to drink for the rest of my life, after some deliberation, I'd probably sitill choose Laphroaig 10 over the 15, and over Lagavulin and Ardbeg.
    Unfortunately, my entry into the world of Laphroaig only began roughly ten years ago, so I have nothing to compare the current Laphroaig 10 to. I really loved the Laphroaig Quarter Cask which seemed to up the intensity a notch, so I'm assuming that the Cask Strength is as close as I am going to get to the Laphroaig 10 of the seventies. I'm also planning on going halves with a friend on a bottle of Laphroaig 30 which may shed some light on what you are referring to. So, is the Cask Strength the way to go then?
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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    Quote Originally Posted by unclebunk View Post
    Unfortunately, my entry into the world of Laphroaig only began roughly ten years ago, so I have nothing to compare the current Laphroaig 10 to. I really loved the Laphroaig Quarter Cask which seemed to up the intensity a notch, so I'm assuming that the Cask Strength is as close as I am going to get to the Laphroaig 10 of the seventies. I'm also planning on going halves with a friend on a bottle of Laphroaig 30 which may shed some light on what you are referring to. So, is the Cask Strength the way to go then?
    The Laphroaig 30 is a totally different laphroaig than you've ever tasted. It has been aged in sherry cask, something Laphroaig does not do. It was purchased by an individual who held it for thirty years and died. Laphroaig bought it from his estate and bottled and sold it. While I find it a very enjoyable dram, I was dissapointed the first time i tasted it (before I knew the sherry story). I was able to get 2 bottles at $175/each. If I saw more at that price I'd buy it.

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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna56 View Post
    Stu, what, in your opinion, comes close to the Laphroaig in current offerings? I've found Talisker to be a hearty dram, and it calls to the imagination a bit of what you feel is lacking (my speculation) in the Laphroaig.

    In any case, tonight I had a small pour of Highland Park 12. Nice, a little peppery, but I'm not getting any salt or smoke that others refer to. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow. Was gifted a bottle of Glenmorangie, 10 yo I think, with a nice glass and a mini of the LaSanta. I'll give that one a whirl tomorrow.

    Cheers!
    The closest thing to the original Laphroaig is the current Laphroaig IMO. While I love Talisker, it is it's own whisky. I get some sea in it but what I really love about it is the peppery hints. It's my favorite dram if my wife is cooking Mexican. Highland Park and every other scotch malt I've tried have been excellent on their own right. The reason I said scotch malt is because Old Portrero and Wasmunds makes malt whiskey and I've had some that is far from good. IMO the worst standard scotch malt is Speyside, and it is enjoyable to me with a little duster (1 part water to 4 parts whisky) - something I normally don't do. I had one in Scotland that was as bad, and I don't remember the name, and the distillery has been long closed.

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    Re: What Wee Dram are you enjoying now?

    I see Stu beat me to it. Great minds and all that......

    The thirty is in no way close to what the old Laphroaig was, in fact it was a product never planned by Laphroaig. Years ago the distillery sold a number of casks to a private individual who had the contents transferred from the bourbon casks Laphroaig uses into sherry casks. Since Laphroaig didn't do sherry casking his plan was to sell this variant after aging it an appropriate amount of time. Well....he died and the casks sat in limbo for a few years while his heirs decided what to do with them and by this time they were about 27 years old. It was at this point Laphroaig decided to buy them back and offer them as an official release. Since that took a bit of time and a 30 yo release is more impressive than a 28 or 29 yo release Laphroaig held on to them until they reached 30 years. The thirty is unique in its own way and you may never see an old sherry casked Laphroaig again but it in no way resembles the bottlings from the 70's. What you want to buy is the new 25 yo for a glimpse into the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by unclebunk View Post
    ..... I'm also planning on going halves with a friend on a bottle of Laphroaig 30 which may shed some light on what you are referring to.
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