My Ultima was 119.00 with a discount. I bought a bunch of other stuff from the same store and they gave me a price break. I did see one at another store that was 179.00 and had the box with it. Mine didn't have the box. Most of these I have seen have been 149.00 to 179.00. The Scapa was 43.00 with tax. I haven't seen these for much less than 60.00 until now. I think the store I got it at had one more!