High West Distillery

[sailor22]

Anyone seen/tried the Bourye yet?

[Lost Pollito]

Yeah, and I liked it quite a bit. Four Roses is the most likely candidate for the bourbon. So, a nice High rye bourbon with a High rye rye. Makes for a spicey vanilla ride.

[p_elliott]

Anyone seen/tried the Bourye yet?

I don't see that one listed on their site between you and Joe you have me intrigued, please elaborate.

[sailor22]

this should clear it up:

http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009...ourye-batch-1/

[p_elliott]

Thanks I'm normally a straight bourbon or straight rye type of guy but this sounds interesting. I would do a bottle of this.

Yeah, and I liked it quite a bit. Four Roses is the most likely candidate for the bourbon. So, a nice High rye bourbon with a High rye rye. Makes for a spicey vanilla ride.

this should clear it up:

http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009...ourye-batch-1/

[cowdery]

As with most things High West does, there is less here than meets the eye. What, after all, is a combination of bourbon and rye? Both contain a lot of corn, both are aged in new, charred oak barrels. Both are distilled at less than 80% ABV and entered into the barrel at less than 62.5 ABV. In the bourbon universe, you have some that contain no rye, but some that contain as much as 35% rye.

So other than a gimmick, or a gillmanization, what is 'bourye'?

[sailor22]

So other than a gimmick, or a gillmanization, what is 'bourye'?

Not so different from any of the majors blending different barrels of different recipes to reach a taste profile. The obvious example is 4 Roses or Parkers heritage Golden. Why isn't that a "gimmick"?

I don't get the sense any of them are pretending it is something it isn't. If it's tasty and they are being pretty straight up about what's in the bottle what's the problem?

[Gillman]

Well, exactly. Rye whiskey is bourbon enhanced to taste more of rye; bourbon whiskey is rye whiskey in which the rye element is lessened.

If you blend bourbon and rye, you are simply adjusting the relative proportions of the corn and rye to your taste; that is all it is.

Gary

[Josh]

As with most things High West does, there is less here than meets the eye. What, after all, is a combination of bourbon and rye? Both contain a lot of corn, both are aged in new, charred oak barrels. Both are distilled at less than 80% ABV and entered into the barrel at less than 62.5 ABV. In the bourbon universe, you have some that contain no rye, but some that contain as much as 35% rye.

So other than a gimmick, or a gillmanization, what is 'bourye'?

It's a vatted whiskey, basically. So I guess that would qualify as a gillmanization.

High West is an NDP. Maybe they'll eventually start distilling something, or maybe they'll be Utah's answer to KBD. But I like KBD's products and it's hard to argue that some of their whiskeys, like the Black Maple Hills and the Willets (among others), aren't great.

I think there's a place in the whiskey world for NDPs and I think High West should be given a chance to prove themselves and try new things, even if they have dopey jackalopes on the label.

[Gillman]

It is more than Gillmanisation (with all due respect to me). It is a blend of straight whiskeys (whether so termed or not), a traditional way to present American whiskey to the consumer. Products like this were extensively merchandised from the 1930's-1950's but are part of the American whiskey tradition in general.

Putting it a different way, my ideas come from this tradition.

Gary