American Rye Whiskey Latest Topics

American Rye Whiskey Latest Topics
  • Just new to the site here, and wanted to clear up some information on the George Washington Rye Whiskey produced at Mount Vernon.  This was to answer some points made on an earlier post about visits to Washington's Distillery and some information that was miscommunicated by the staff there, and also clear up the production schedule there.  The Gristmill (waterpowered) does grind all the grains for the rye whiskey made in the distillery (rye, corn and malted barley).  All the fermentation is done by 18th-century methods, fermenting in wood mash tubs using wood mash rakes and bucketing hot boiling water from the boiler, the five copper pot stills are heated by direct wood fires.  The tours of the distillery run from April 1 - Oct 31 every year, 10am to 5pm.  The rye whiskey runs are made in March and November when regular tours are not ongoing -- this is due to the methods used and safety issues, running in an 18th century manner, means a lot of bucketing of hot water, mash, and wet floors, along with exposed hot copper -- not a good environment for large tour groups, production must be focused on.  Mount Vernon does offer two small group VIP tour experiences during March and November, which can be learned about on the MV website.  The unaged rye goes for $98 for a 375ml, and the 2 year old rye goes for $188 - since Virginia is a control state, just over half of that total goes to the taxman.  The 2-yr old aging is very young, but at the time the projects started in 2009, Mount Vernon wanted to see what the aged market was for the GW whiskey and went with the youngest age they could do to get it on the market.  Now some barrels are being held longer and the first 4 year old GW rye will come in late 2017.  Barrels are 25 gallon, and that is due to fact that they have to be moved around the site and into the rack on the Mount Vernon Estate by manual labor, 53 gallon barrels are used sometimes for brandy aging (peach and apple), these are smaller runs.  The whiskey is more than a souvenir and whiskey writers and experts have tasted both types and liked them.  Hope this clears up some questions about the operation.  

  • We are told that Wild Turkey has been short on their Rye 101, but today I noticed both chain stores have it on the shelf.  It is only available in the 1L bottle for $38 to $44.   I would think if supply was so low they would be offering it in the 750ml package instead of the liter size.  My cynical side would consider this a money grab.  How do you all see this?  

  • I picked up a bottle of Willett Single Barrel Rye (109 proof) for $40 at Spec's today. The label says it was distilled by them. I haven't had any of their own rye yet (just the MGP stuff..which was very good). Anyone else had the single barrel yet? I know there was a 2 year old released but I don't believe it was a single barrel.    

  • So I picked up a 50ml of Winchester Rye one time while I was at a local total wine store. I believe it is their store brand. I took a vacation to Tennessee last week, and decided to bring a few of my 50ml bottles along for the ride, and this one came with. The bottle was either $1.99 or $.99. I can't remember. The 750ml were somewhere around $20. My initial reaction was that it smelled pretty good. Lots of Rye. It reminded me (a little) of a 95% MGP from the nose. First taste, and I immediately thought of CRNHR. It had that same young Rye flavor, just without some of the bananas foster taste. It tasted very young. Very little complexity or depth, but I liked it, and I was pleasantly surprised with it. If you like northern harvest Rye, this will probably tickle your fancy. If you like HW double Rye, also give this a try. It is 90 proof. The bottle lists SC on the label, and it is produced by Terressentia. I've never heard of them before.

  • I recently toured Mount Vernon, the gristmill and distillery. I did some searches for tasting notes on the rye sold there but didn't find much. At Mount Vernon you can only sample the 2 they are serving with a steep payment, which i refused to do. It's a bit of a runaround if you expect things to work the way they do at most distillery tours. (was told it was because we were in Virginia, not Kentucky) You can't visit the distillery while it's up and running. That's only done when Mount Vernon is closed to the public off season, and when it's cooler I would imagine. There are no tastings at the distillery, only at the restaurant 3 miles back at Mount Vernon and good luck with that if they are over crowded . I recommend only visiting Mount Vernon early spring and fall. I was not given straight answers to any of my pointed questions at the distillery. For example, when I asked if their aged barrels were keep in their own rack house? I was told yes but no one knows where that location is on the property, for whatever reason. When asked if they use their own gristmill grains for distillations and I was told yes, but then later I asked the mill operator and he said no, because the equipment does not meet FDA specifications.     So anyway what I was wondering if anyone has any comparisons or if they have any tasting notes on any GW versions dating back to 2010? If this is all very much legit as it is purposed to be should it be good? I know the price is all about collectibility, charitable proceeds, limited editions, and the so-so GW connection means nothing to the outcome of the final product. I'm sure most of the purchased bottles have never been opened. So if you're one of the few people who have bought a bottle or two and drank enough to give it a good review I'd like to hear about it. I really am a huge history buff but also one with a limited budget and at these price points, $89 and $189, if I buy a bottle it's only going to be cracked on a super special occasion. I want it to be at least good, if not great for that day.

  • I figured a new thread was in order for the warm months    Picked up a few Pikesville at Costco for $44. Also got a 1L WT101 Rye for $35 after not being able to find it anywhere, only the 81 proof.

  • A 6 y/o Templeton Rye popped up on the Michigan new items list a few days ago. Has anybody seen a label for this or heard anything?