Premium Bourbons/Specialty Bottlings Latest Topics

Premium Bourbons/Specialty Bottlings Latest Topics
  •    Special Memphis Sesquicentennial bottled in 1969, barreled in 62. Stitzel Weller DAP KY 16. Bottled at 86.8 proof.   Went to an outdoor concert last night and a sweetheart of a lady brought this, opened it, and shared it with friends. Of course the cork was ruined so she pushed the last chip down, covered the spout with cheesecloth (pictured), and gave everyone a round. It was soooooo smooth and slick it's hard to describe. Orange and cherry nose, citrus and baking spices with touch of licorice taste. Finish was quite short and tame. A rare treat for a near stranger to share 50yr old whiskey with us, BUT it was very appreciated. 

  • Anybody seeing any of the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection hitting shelves yet? I see in Michigan the GTS, ER17 and WLW have made the Liquor Control Board list as of 9/18, but still waiting to see or hear of it at any store.

  • Get your popcorn ready to watch these auctions.  http://ofcvintages.com/#about

  • On a sad note, my Grandfather in law passed away last week at the ripe old age of 99.  He used to buy high end bottles of scotch, bourbon, etc as he liked to entertain in his little place on the north side of Chicago.  I knew he had some decent bottles but didn't know to what extent until we started cleaning stuff out...I am hoping the pics show, however, here were some of the finds:   Old Fitzgerald (specialty run) - Aged 15 years.  Label states is what barreled in 1948 and bottled in 1963 Wellers Barrel Proof Aged 10 years at 110 proof Wellers Barrel proof Aged 7 years at 107 proof  IW Harper Early Times (old bottle), 90 proof (I believe)   He had some other novelty bottles - Beam Choice in the decorative porcelain containers and some Old Fitzgerald bourbon in hollowed-out candle stick looking things....   OK - the file size pic is too large...not sure I can post pics...I'll see if I can find a way   JFlay    

  • I saw this a couple days ago at one of my local retailers.      'Lusty Claw Bourbon'.   Priced at $55.45/750.   VERY impressive bottle, as far as standing out.   Solid-looking eagle topper, braided gold rope necktie with metallic-looking aglets, heavy glass, nicely designed label... calling itself 'Kentucky' Bourbon, and saying it was distilled in that state; but bottled in (if I remember correctly) Georgia.     The price gave me more than adequate pause.    Instead of carrying one away with me, I settled for an NAS EC, and a OGD 114.   I almost posted this in the 'What have you passed up' category; but went for the 'new thread' since it's a new (to me, anyway) Bourbon. Anyone have anything to say about this one????

  • When BF announced they were releasing a BIB expression as part of their Whiskey Row series, I was immediately interested. I'm a big fan of BIB whiskies and see them as an opportunity for distilleries to show off their house styles. I'm ALSO a big fan of the defunct Bonded OF as, to me, it was a whiskey that served to exemplify good bourbon: an inexpensive, workhorse of a whiskey that was easygoing enough to be a daily drinker but offered a delicious flavor and just enough complexity to keep it from being boring. Having been recently gifted a liquor store gift card, the time was right to grab a bottle of 1897 and see how this new premium expression would fare against the old everyday bottle.  The differences were apparent immediately with the nose. While not oaky, Bonded OF came off as more mature. Though the label states that the whiskey inside is four years old it is likely older and the age comes through with sweet brown sugar, a hint of tobacco, vanilla, and alcohol. The 1897 smelled immediately of young, corny white dog. The nose was all grain and alcohol with a bit of fruit tucked off to the sides. Those differences carried through on the palate. Bonded OF tastes like liquid spice cake to me and is just about the perfect Fall/Winter pour with that delicious, robust baking spice flavor. I made a pumpkin pie spice infused bourbon last year and Bonded OF is very similar to that but without the work. 1897 tasted pretty much the same as it smelled but with a bit more fruit and some astringency. Not unpleasant, but definitely young. The mouthfeel of 1897 is also thinner and lighter where Bonded OF has some heft and coats nicely. The finish of 1897 was short, as expected, with alcohol and grain being the lingering characteristics. Bonded OF has a much longer finish with a faint, lingering hint of Juicy Fruit gum. Given the premium market position and price, I had high expectations for the new bottle. Yes, I know that a BIB whiskey is only required to be four years old but I expected BF to put forth more effort with this expression and offer up something special. I also thought that it may not be fair to compare what was likely glut whiskey with a new bottle, but 1897 is a premium expression and priced as such. I don't think it's unfair to expect a lot from such a bottle, but the times in which we're living make it unsurprising that a distillery can command (and get) $50 for a bottle of 4-year-old whiskey. I noted several complaints when Beam introduced their JB BIB at a significantly higher price than what they charged for JBW but, IMHO, that expression was also a significant jump in quality that justified the hike in price. And that one is half the price of 1897. I haven't tried OF Original Batch and haven't picked up any other OF in some time given that I have a stash of Bonded OF that I've been nursing for a while and with this experience and reports recently from PaulO and SmokinJoe of disappointing experiences with OFSig, I likely won't. Hopefully, some air-time will be good for this bottle and I'll report back if that's the case but for now I don't recommend splurging on 1897 BIB.

  • This just hit select Michigan retailers this week.  10 year barrel proof MGP juice, bottled by Valentine Distillery in Ferndale, MI.  I probably won't crack into mine till the weekend but I'd love to hear any thoughts if anyone has tried it yet.

American Rye Whiskey Latest Topics

American Rye Whiskey Latest Topics
  • Cool weather has finally arrived and I'm kicking the fire pit season off with a nice pour of WTRR.    What say ye?

  • What's your thought on this rye?   worth the price of admission?

  • It appears that the Old Overholt Rye label hasn't been served well lately by its owners.   http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/02/the-rise-fall-of-america-s-oldest-whiskey.html?via=newsletter&source=DDAfternoon

  • Hello all, New to this group and have been drinking Rye for a few years. I have come to really appreciate 100% Rye and seek and search out these bottles. I am familiar with some but looking to find more. Here is a list of what I have on hand, not in any order. Please chime in with some suggestions. Thanks Tom Whistle Pig High West Double Rye Collinswood 21 yr 100% Rye 1776 WoodyCreek (out of Colorado) Kooper Family Rye Hudson

  • Hi everyone,   I'm still a novice with rye whiskey, but just absolutely loving this type of dram. Whiskysite.nl (Master of Malt occasionally) is my place to order when buying from webshops.   Any suggestions, which rye whiskeys are the best ones from Whiskysite's selection: http://www.whiskysite.nl/nl/search/rye/   Feel free to tip rye from MoM or some other nice webshop. Bottle of Old Potrero surely would be nice to find somewhere...

  • Just new to the site here, and wanted to clear up some information on the George Washington Rye Whiskey produced at Mount Vernon.  This was to answer some points made on an earlier post about visits to Washington's Distillery and some information that was miscommunicated by the staff there, and also clear up the production schedule there.  The Gristmill (waterpowered) does grind all the grains for the rye whiskey made in the distillery (rye, corn and malted barley).  All the fermentation is done by 18th-century methods, fermenting in wood mash tubs using wood mash rakes and bucketing hot boiling water from the boiler, the five copper pot stills are heated by direct wood fires.  The tours of the distillery run from April 1 - Oct 31 every year, 10am to 5pm.  The rye whiskey runs are made in March and November when regular tours are not ongoing -- this is due to the methods used and safety issues, running in an 18th century manner, means a lot of bucketing of hot water, mash, and wet floors, along with exposed hot copper -- not a good environment for large tour groups, production must be focused on.  Mount Vernon does offer two small group VIP tour experiences during March and November, which can be learned about on the MV website.  The unaged rye goes for $98 for a 375ml, and the 2 year old rye goes for $188 - since Virginia is a control state, just over half of that total goes to the taxman.  The 2-yr old aging is very young, but at the time the projects started in 2009, Mount Vernon wanted to see what the aged market was for the GW whiskey and went with the youngest age they could do to get it on the market.  Now some barrels are being held longer and the first 4 year old GW rye will come in late 2017.  Barrels are 25 gallon, and that is due to fact that they have to be moved around the site and into the rack on the Mount Vernon Estate by manual labor, 53 gallon barrels are used sometimes for brandy aging (peach and apple), these are smaller runs.  The whiskey is more than a souvenir and whiskey writers and experts have tasted both types and liked them.  Hope this clears up some questions about the operation.  

  • We are told that Wild Turkey has been short on their Rye 101, but today I noticed both chain stores have it on the shelf.  It is only available in the 1L bottle for $38 to $44.   I would think if supply was so low they would be offering it in the 750ml package instead of the liter size.  My cynical side would consider this a money grab.  How do you all see this?