sob0728 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Thanks to Sku (and the TTB website) for alerting me to this future bottling of 13 and 16 year old barrels. Sounds awesome. I have not had Tribute or American Spirit, but the Tradition I had was amazing. Really looking forward to this new release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smknjoe Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Sounds good. I hope it's a sub-$90 bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luther.r Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=1334400100015991 proof. That is a major detractor for me. WT has been known for their 101 proof offerings since the beginning. I don't understand why they're watering their special releases down now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighInTheMtns Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Here's the link: https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=1334400100015991 proof. Why? Oh well, assuming a decent price I'm in for this one.#NeverTamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil T Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Since this a tribute bottling for Jimmy, maybe the 91 proof is his sweet spot?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighInTheMtns Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Since this a tribute bottling for Jimmy, maybe the 91 proof is his sweet spot?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Dog Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Since this a tribute bottling for Jimmy, maybe the 91 proof is his sweet spot??Mr. Russell used to always state in the past that 101 was his sweet spot. He's probably been made to stop being honest.91 proof? WT continues to give connoisseurs the bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sob0728 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Mr. Russell used to always state in the past that 101 was his sweet spot. He's probably been made to stop being honest.91 proof? WT continues to give connoisseurs the bird.Have we all just made the decision that higher proof is better and there is no way anything under 100 is any good? Or can we wait to taste it before we just dismiss it entirely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 91 may well be better, but we can always add our own water to get it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonami Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think wording on the label is really interesting: "a very blend of 13 to 16 year old hand-selected barrels""Blend" is such a loaded and legally defined term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luther.r Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Have we all just made the decision that higher proof is better and there is no way anything under 100 is any good? Or can we wait to taste it before we just dismiss it entirely?I personally don't buy anything under 100 proof anymore because I found I just didn't like most sub-100 proofers. And when I drink barrel proof, I don't find that I ever dilute it to under 100 proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Dog Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Have we all just made the decision that higher proof is better and there is no way anything under 100 is any good? Or can we wait to taste it before we just dismiss it entirely?Most of what I drink I cut to around 90 to 95. The issue is letting us control where we find the best flavor. And why do we have to keep stating this obvious fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zillah Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Not to dampen the argument that more proof is better (it often is) but when limited juice like this is watered down it usually means more bottles for the rest. Also, with WT's low barrel entry proof and the age on these, WT could be picking lower barrels on the rack that have had given too much to the angels. With that said, labeling this release with the most information possible, as well as non-chill filtering it at barrel strength would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighInTheMtns Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think wording on the label is really interesting: "a very blend of 13 to 16 year old hand-selected barrels""Blend" is such a loaded and legally defined termLoaded, but the label says KSBW as well so nothing to worry about there.As far as conjecture that the 91 proof is because of anything other than a business decision, I find that basically impossible to believe. Forgiven is 91 proof, the new export 13 year is 91 proof. This is what it comes down to:Take a 53 gallon barrel of bourbon. That's approximately 200 L of barrel proof bourbon at the time it's filled. Assuming 50% evaporation that barrel will produce 100 L of bourbon at about 110 proof. That works out to be the equivalent of ~109 L of 101, or ~121 L of 91.This hypothetical barrel would yield 133 bottles at barrel proof, 145 at 101, or 161 bottles at 91. Assuming a $90 retail price, we're talking nearly $1500 more out of the same barrel at 91 proof versus 101 proof. That's why it's 91 proof. #NeverTamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sob0728 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Most of what I drink I cut to around 90 to 95. The issue is letting us control where we find the best flavor. And why do we have to keep stating this obvious fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 OK, said they used the B word, but at least it's not a Small Batch Single Barrel offering. If it's under $50, I'll eat my hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dusty Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 OK, said they used the B word, but at least it's not a Small Batch Single Barrel offering. If it's under $50, I'll eat my hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Maybe some schlub accidentally proofed it down to 91 and they decided they liked it so much they just had to bottle it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey Manthey Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 OK, said they used the B word, but at least it's not a Small Batch Single Barrel offering. If it's under $50, I'll eat my hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dusty Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Maybe some schlub accidentally proofed it down to 91 and they decided they liked it so much they just had to bottle it?Right. They were going to call it F*ckup II but decided Diamond Anniversary had a nicer ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwacky Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Maybe some schlub accidentally proofed it down to 91 and they decided they liked it so much they just had to bottle it?This had me laughing to myself like an idiot in my living room. Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Campari just seems determined to replace 101 with 91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compliance Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Why do they have to keep making it harder and harder for us Turkey defenders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Hang in there, y'all. Let's see how it goes when we taste the whiskey. Heck, it hasn't even had the benefit of the Airtime, yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Well....we've already been programmed to "like" gas at $3 per gallon, so maybe this will be easier than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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