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BOTM 9/17: Basil Hayden's

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The Black Tot   
The Black Tot

Nobody has said it outright yet, but I always felt that this was Beam's "bourbon for girlz".

 

Low proof, smooth - they even put shiny metal on the label. This is perhaps not Beam's most flattering homage to women if this is true, and I know plenty of girls who drink with the big boys, but the whole concept appears like the marketer's idea of feminized to me.

 

I bought a bottle and went through it way before I developed a palate. Now I never have occasion to try it again, for all the reasons mentioned above.

 

Liking OGD the way I do, I expect I also like BH.

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BourbonDude   
BourbonDude
2 hours ago, The Black Tot said:

Nobody has said it outright yet, but I always felt that this was Beam's "bourbon for girlz".

 

Low proof, smooth - they even put shiny metal on the label. This is perhaps not Beam's most flattering homage to women if this is true, and I know plenty of girls who drink with the big boys, but the whole concept appears like the marketer's idea of feminized to me.

 

I bought a bottle and went through it way before I developed a palate. Now I never have occasion to try it again, for all the reasons mentioned above.

 

Liking OGD the way I do, I expect I also like BH.

That's as good a way of putting it as any. I just recently tried both the BH bourbon again and the rye for the first time  (hard to find) and the rye is as mild as the bourbon. It's as if they were trying to make bourbon and rye so meek as to not offend anybody (maybe even wine or beer drinkers), but the result was they forgot to provide any real flavor or character. Sorry, for me at least, that dog don't hunt. In fact I ended up mixing the rye 1 to 4 with the Doubleday craft bourbon from the Cooperstown Distillery, which was too young and harsh by itself but at least added some flavor to the rye. But together they were better than either one separately.

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The Black Tot   
The Black Tot

You wouldn't expect that from someone with such a butch, husky, brutish, and authoritarian name as...

 

...Basil...

 

(insert Fawlty Towers joke here)

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smokinjoe   
smokinjoe

Speaking of names...

I have always called it Basil, like the herb.

Ive heard Bernie Lubbers call it more British-like...(well crap, I don't know how to write this...:unsure:). OK, I'll go With this.  :D...like Bazzil, and the Bazz is like "bass" the fish, except with Zs...

 

Sorry I so stupid...

 

So, which is it?  Or, other?

 

 

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The Black Tot   
The Black Tot

I like your Bazzil :) But I use the zz like Razzamanazz. Ha ha.

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Richnimrod   
Richnimrod

I too, have wondered if the brand (and the given name as well) should be pronounced BAYz'l, or Baazz'l.     I've heard several people now say that the herb is properly said; 'bAYz'l', while the man's name should be said; 'Baazz'l', so from now on I'll say it that way.....if I remember.     At my age, that's not a particularly good bet.

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PaulO   
PaulO

Grand Dad is a lot easier to say.

Anyway, I was gifted a bottle of BH for Christmas a number of years ago.  This was back when it still had the 8 year age statement.  It was pretty decent, but not something I'd buy given the low proof and big price.  I tend to agree with the posts suggesting the brand was developed for some other demographic like: Scotch drinkers, wine drinkers, hipsters, or ladies.  Maybe all those.  I thought the dropped age statement was particularly lame for this brand.      

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musekatcher   
musekatcher
20 hours ago, Richnimrod said:

I too, have wondered if the brand (and the given name as well) should be pronounced BAYz'l, or Baazz'l.     I've heard several people now say that the herb is properly said; 'bAYz'l', while the man's name should be said; 'Baazz'l', so from now on I'll say it that way.....if I remember.     At my age, that's not a particularly good bet.

I've heard it pronounced Hazel Bayden.  One person does it consistently.  Reminds me of folks who use, "samidge" innocently, but incorrectly. 

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Mako254   
Mako254
On 9/2/2017 at 11:48 PM, Paddy said:

 

 

IMO, It's damn good bourbon.  I'd just rather have those 'ripe' barrels going into a higher proof iteration.  :(

 

I'll take your word on the damn good part. For the price, I cant really get excited about it. I'd consider myself and advanced beginner but my taste profile tends to be 94-110 proof, 7-12 years is what I find mys lf buying and enjoying. 

 

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FacePlant   
FacePlant

I think BH is a gateway to the strong dangerous bourbons. I would caution youngsters or venturous souls to stay away, because they might like the high and "get hooked" before they realize it. Probably should have a proper warning label? 

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CardsandBourbon   
CardsandBourbon

With BH being the BOTM I decided last night to have a pour.  It was one of my first buys earlier this year when I was just getting into bourbon and was not sure of being able to handle the higher proof stuff.  The best I can say about it is that it's nice.  Proof - not too high; Flavor - not too spicy; Oak - not too oakey.  Doesn't really stand out in any one category but is also not bad in any one category.  It was a good introduction to small batch for me.  If I'm looking for a lower proof that, while it will never WOW me, will also never disappoint me, then BH would be a choice.  

 

I also think it is a good bourbon to introduce people to bourbon.

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Jackinbox   
Jackinbox

I'm not a fan, but then again it's not designed to appeal to people like me.   Even if the price were the same, I would still buy OGD100 over BH.  BH just tastes so watered down to me.  I'm a big OGD fan, and I'm perfectly content to just keeping buying those (100 and 114).  

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Kepler   
Kepler

Basil Hayden's is to bourbon what Stella Artois is to beer.

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