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Knob Creek Single Barrel Rye!!!!!!

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fishnbowljoe
4 hours ago, DCFan said:

There’s no description of the barrels or proof on the website or even a photo of the bottle.

Someone here please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, because I have a somewhat limited knowledge of the inner workings of the TTB and such. I'm pretty sure that when an entity files an application with the TTB, they have to await for approval before moving forward. FWIW, I seem to remember times in the past where a label/product was applied for and approved, but for whatever reason it never became a reality. This was only approved by the TTB on October 3rd. Beam can now proceed with it if they so choose. If they do decide to go ahead with this, it might take a while before anything becomes "official". 

 

Cheers! Joe

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kevinbrink
3 hours ago, fishnbowljoe said:

Someone here please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, because I have a somewhat limited knowledge of the inner workings of the TTB and such. I'm pretty sure that when an entity files an application with the TTB, they have to await for approval before moving forward. FWIW, I seem to remember times in the past where a label/product was applied for and approved, but for whatever reason it never became a reality. This was only approved by the TTB on October 3rd. Beam can now proceed with it if they so choose. If they do decide to go ahead with this, it might take a while before anything becomes "official". 

 

Cheers! Joe

As far as I know this is true, could also be a gift shop type bottle, either way there is a chance this doesn't show up at retail but a guy can dream no?

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flahute
4 hours ago, fishnbowljoe said:

Someone here please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, because I have a somewhat limited knowledge of the inner workings of the TTB and such. I'm pretty sure that when an entity files an application with the TTB, they have to await for approval before moving forward. FWIW, I seem to remember times in the past where a label/product was applied for and approved, but for whatever reason it never became a reality. This was only approved by the TTB on October 3rd. Beam can now proceed with it if they so choose. If they do decide to go ahead with this, it might take a while before anything becomes "official". 

 

Cheers! Joe

Correct.

FWIW, my group has already inquired about this in regards to the private barrel program. We're being told it won't be available until next year.

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TheOakMonster

Our Beam-Suntory rep forwarded information regarding this product. Seems this product is launching as a barrel selection product ONLY, no regular release. MSRP $50. No mention of age, but the sell sheet does say the expected yield per rye barrel (35 6-pack cases) is higher than Knob Creek SB (around 24 6-pack cases). Even adjusting for the proof difference, that suggests Knob Creek Rye is significantly younger than the bourbon.

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DCFan

I suspect the rye that I spoke of in the ABC website is the small batch 100 proof version. Sorry for the confusion.

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kevinbrink
14 hours ago, TheOakMonster said:

Our Beam-Suntory rep forwarded information regarding this product. Seems this product is launching as a barrel selection product ONLY, no regular release. MSRP $50. No mention of age, but the sell sheet does say the expected yield per rye barrel (35 6-pack cases) is higher than Knob Creek SB (around 24 6-pack cases). Even adjusting for the proof difference, that suggests Knob Creek Rye is significantly younger than the bourbon.

Well Knob Creek Rye has always been younger than the bourbon having an "age statement" of "Patiently Aged" I wouldn't have expected this to be any different. It always tasted older than Beam rye to me but there is a decent proof difference there as well so who knows how old it is other than over 4 years.  $50 seems a fair price to me based on the proof. Most ryes on the market have more of an implied age statement than an actual one. Hoping that even if this starts as only a store pick that eventually it is part of the regular line up. 

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The Black Tot

My guess is it's going to be at least 6, since this seems to be Beam's response to Pikesville. They even added 5 proof to throw down the gauntlet.

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Paddy

^^^ +1 to what Paul and Kevin said.  I'd even lay 3-1 odds that it'll eventually end up being a shelf standard within the next year or two...

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mbroo5880i
On 10/17/2017 at 9:45 PM, Paddy said:

^^^ +1 to what Paul and Kevin said.  I'd even lay 3-1 odds that it'll eventually end up being a shelf standard within the next year or two...

If it is in the $40 to $45 range as KCSB bourbon is, then it will be a welcome addition.  It will be difficult to beat Pikesville though.

 

I have always liked KC Rye.  It can be a little rough sometimes but a worthy pour if the price is right.

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Paddy

^^^^I also enjoy KC rye. 

 

I think with the right age (and proof) on it it'll have a better than fair chance of being on par with Pikesville (my money's on it's gonna be better;)). 

 

Don't get me wrong, Pikesville is great...but, bourbon like great, while KC is a truly traditional rye.  I don't think for a minute that it'll sell for what the current KCSB is going for, but that's the only thing here I hope I'm wrong about!  :lol:   

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Kpiz

For $50/bottle this will be a very nice addition to the private selection menu. If the KC rye and bourbon have similar aging conditions and evaporation, then 6 years should be about right for the age of these barrels, based on the case estimates OakMonster gave above.

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MeAndMyWhiskey

This is one I really look forward to. KC Rye is funny for me because I often overlook (forget) it when I'm pouring a rye to sip, but when I do remember it, I'm always glad I did. Not an everyday favorite, but I think it provides a unique profile among the readily available ryes. I look forward to trying a barrel selection . . . some day.

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