Kane Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinbrink said: Whistlepig is really upping the ante on the next Boss Hog packaging design https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19355001000003 Oh my... Finally a worthy rival to Edradour's Fairy Flag. I count 5 different fonts on those labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNovaMan Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, kevinbrink said: A new label for WT 101 that does away with the general statement of age, WT101 must be the most frequently refreshed packaging in all of bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20006001000186 Wow, that's quite a change! FIVE separate labels, plus a fake tax strip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosmith Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 5 hours ago, kevinbrink said: A new label for WT 101 that does away with the general statement of age, WT101 must be the most frequently refreshed packaging in all of bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20006001000186 The back label still has the misleading statement "aged for UP TO six to eight years". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 hours ago, fosmith said: The back label still has the misleading statement "aged for UP TO six to eight years". Good catch sir, missed that, guess I read too fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 8:17 PM, Vosgar said: I love how the new Waterfill and Frazier label really draws on the brands history. The picture below is from an old miniature I have. If this new bottle actually get released, I may have to buy one just because of the label I was thinking the same thing. I wonder who will be the source for the new stuff? Regardless, 5 years old and 100 proof from any of KY's legacy distillers is interesting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 Corn Trooper Union Straight Bourbon bottled by Whistlepig with label issues that clearly show that origin, and don't clearly show the whiskey's origin, somehow labeled distilled in Indiana..... https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19353001000232 Old Charter Chinkapin Oak https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20006001000598 Nelson's Green Briar TN Sourmash https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20016001000436 Chattanooga Single Barrel https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19346001000743 This one feels like it is being submitted in the wrong decade, looks like some dusty mystery juice from the 60s or 70s https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20003001000180 And another from the same "producer" with a more recent looking design https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20007001000548 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 The slippery slope of barrel finishes is that eventually they get approved when labeled as straight https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20003001000042 Rabbit Hole Cavehill Cask Strength KSBW https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19352001000023 Pure Antique 10 yo KSBW https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20007001001022 Salt Springs Spirits 10 Year KSBW https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20014001000376 Boone County 15 Year old Single Barrel Cask Strength https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20010001000037 Heaven's Gate Highway 61 Blend of Straight Bourbon/Rye https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20007001000790 Four Gate 7 year old MGP Rye https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20008001000355 A CA SBW "Bourbon's Little Sister https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20006001000996 Thomas Moore Port Finish from Barton https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19350001000565 And Chardonnay https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19350001000562 And Cabernet Sauvignon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19350001000499 And a formerly Straight Indiana Bourbon finished in Tequila Barrels with a disco ball headed mariachi or something on the label... https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20002001000204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 hours ago, kevinbrink said: Pure Antique 10 yo KSBW https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20007001001022 This one is interesting as it says "distilled and bottled by Pure Antique Distillery" which is really Preservation Distillery. I don't know much about those guys and am surprised they have 10yr old self distilled bourbon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 hours ago, flahute said: This one is interesting as it says "distilled and bottled by Pure Antique Distillery" which is really Preservation Distillery. I don't know much about those guys and am surprised they have 10yr old self distilled bourbon. Didn't notice that myself good observation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz June Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/31/2020 at 3:17 PM, flahute said: This one is interesting as it says "distilled and bottled by Pure Antique Distillery" which is really Preservation Distillery. I don't know much about those guys and am surprised they have 10yr old self distilled bourbon. From online reading (and as you probably know yourself, likely better than me), I am not impressed with their integrity/honesty, so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz June Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Jazz June said: From online reading (and as you probably know yourself, likely better than me), I am not impressed with their integrity/honesty, so... Also, while Sazerac doesn't necessarily have proprietary rights in the word ANTIQUE by itself, some might view "Pure Antique" bourbon bottled at 107 proof as loosely associating yourself with someone else's brand. If this product gets further than a TTB filing, we may see if Sazerac leadership/Sazerac's IP attorneys take this view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Kentucky Owl Rye "The Last Batch" 10 Year Old https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20014001000691 Western Reserve 6 Year Straight Rye (MGP) https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20015001000232 Bluegrass Distillers High Rye BIB Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20028001000912 KBD Bringing back the Vintage label for a 16 year old SiB Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20014001000529 Sonoma Brothers Straight Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20020001000325 And Rye https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20020001000386 Seafog Straight Rye from Newport, RI, interested in this one, love their Peated Malt https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20013001000325 New year so a new label for EW BIB https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20014001000088 Basil Hayden 10 Year Straight Rye https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20016001000707 Old Elk Blended Straight Bourbon back label states they use 4X the malt of typical bourbon for this https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20016001000891 Tom's Town Truman Special Reserve KSBW https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20003001000536 Stranahan's Mountain Angel 10 Year old Single malt https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20021001000057 Wyoming Whiskey National Parks 5 Year Old Straight Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20015001000678 Knob Creek labels just show up all the time now, here's two bottled for Stranger & Stranger https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20009001000749 https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20009001000769 Trailhead SBW bottled in RI no sign of a state of distillation https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20013001000724 Not sure how this differs from the old label for Redemption Weated https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20017001000943 Grand Traverse Straight Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19360001000175 Another Label from Preservation Old Man Winter 12 Year old https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20013001001018 Taster's Club Reserve 5 Year SBW from MN https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20023001000089 Old Carter Barrel Strength MGP Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20024001000429 NULU Single Barrel Barrel Proof MGP https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20021001000004 Four Gate Split Stave Straight Rye, that isn't straight at all https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20029001000084 And Bluegrass Trilogy Rum Finished Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20029001000082 Calumet Farms 8 Yr https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20014001001071 Firefly Blend of Straight Bourbons https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20020001000536 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercharger Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 2:24 PM, Jazz June said: From online reading (and as you probably know yourself, likely better than me), I am not impressed with their integrity/honesty, so... What’s the story here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinbrink said: KBD Bringing back the Vintage label for a 16 year old SiB Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20014001000529 This is one of barrels sold at our charity event with Willett and is a one off. Each group that bought a barrel was able to create a custom label. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz June Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, Supercharger said: What’s the story here? Their owner: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2019/03/13/kentucky-bourbon-preservation-distillery-owner-charged-college-admission-scam/3148799002/ And the whisper campaign they are conducting that one of their bottlings is Stitzel-Weller, when it just doesn't add up. Their stuff might be good (in fact I'm hoping to soon find out myself), but much of their marketing strikes me as misleading to outright untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, kevinbrink said: KBD Bringing back the Vintage label for a 16 year old SiB Bourbon https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20014001000529 41 minutes ago, flahute said: This is one of barrels sold at our charity event with Willett and is a one off. Each group that bought a barrel was able to create a custom label. Any info about the liquid in this Steve? The old Vintage Bourbon 17 Yr was good and I regret not stocking up on that back in the day when I had a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kepler said: Any info about the liquid in this Steve? The old Vintage Bourbon 17 Yr was good and I regret not stocking up on that back in the day when I had a chance. I don't know much about this particular barrel other than that it came from a mostly similar lot of barrels that all the groups picked from including ours. The initial deal was that we all got to pick a 15yr old barrel. All groups had 8 samples to choose from (we picked at Willett in January so it was too cold to be in the rickhouses so we picked from large sample bottles in their new bar) and all groups got virgin samples. From seeing photos of sample bottles from the other groups we were able to see the barrel codes so we know that most of us were choosing barrels that came from the same original source. We don't know that source. Drew never tells! Due to the custom labels and the need for TTB approval, everything took longer than normal so by the time the barrels got dumped they had turned 16. I can tell you that our barrel is amazing. The one we chose was my first choice so I'm happy about that. It narrowly beat the #2 choice in the vote from our tasting panel. I know the guy who runs Blackout and he has a great palate so I have every reason to believe that their barrel is also great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, flahute said: I don't know much about this particular barrel other than that it came from a mostly similar lot of barrels that all the groups picked from including ours. The initial deal was that we all got to pick a 15yr old barrel. All groups had 8 samples to choose from (we picked at Willett in January so it was too cold to be in the rickhouses so we picked from large sample bottles in their new bar) and all groups got virgin samples. From seeing photos of sample bottles from the other groups we were able to see the barrel codes so we know that most of us were choosing barrels that came from the same original source. We don't know that source. Drew never tells! Due to the custom labels and the need for TTB approval, everything took longer than normal so by the time the barrels got dumped they had turned 16. I can tell you that our barrel is amazing. The one we chose was my first choice so I'm happy about that. It narrowly beat the #2 choice in the vote from our tasting panel. I know the guy who runs Blackout and he has a great palate so I have every reason to believe that their barrel is also great. Thanks for the detailed reply Steve. Sounds like a really cool experience. I got to meet Drew years ago at local tasting they put on at one of my local stores. Seemed like a cool guy. Great choice on the label!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Kepler said: Thanks for the detailed reply Steve. Sounds like a really cool experience. I got to meet Drew years ago at local tasting they put on at one of my local stores. Seemed like a cool guy. Great choice on the label!! Drew is great and is super generous. Yeah - that Vintage label is great. Our group was actually considering using that. While we were trying to figure it out one of our guys was in Osaka at one of those bars with a ridiculous collection of dusties and he sent us a photo of a super old Willett squat bottle that became the basis for our label. We ended up combining that with the Johnny Drum age statement neck sticker for our bottle along with the wax dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUfan99 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 hours ago, kevinbrink said: Four Gate Split Stave Straight Rye, that isn't straight at all https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20029001000084 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 5 hours ago, flahute said: Drew is great and is super generous. Yeah - that Vintage label is great. Our group was actually considering using that. While we were trying to figure it out one of our guys was in Osaka at one of those bars with a ridiculous collection of dusties and he sent us a photo of a super old Willett squat bottle that became the basis for our label. We ended up combining that with the Johnny Drum age statement neck sticker for our bottle along with the wax dip. Oops I thought the Vintage was your group's label. But I like yours all the same and I really like the tie-in to the old bottling. Well done as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 8 hours ago, CUfan99 said: Why not? It's actually labeled correctly I guess, it shows as Straight Rye whiskey finished in...... which is how it should appear, I looked at it quickly as I was churning through these this morning and missed that because of the way they spaced it. That being said it isn't a straight whiskey since it is finished in another barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUfan99 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 hours ago, kevinbrink said: It's actually labeled correctly I guess, it shows as Straight Rye whiskey finished in...... which is how it should appear, I looked at it quickly as I was churning through these this morning and missed that because of the way they spaced it. That being said it isn't a straight whiskey since it is finished in another barrel. They use the word Finished but it’s really just a double barrel product. The second barrel is new oak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCwhammie Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 20 hours ago, kevinbrink said: Kentucky Owl Rye "The Last Batch" 10 Year Old https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=20014001000691 This can only mean they lost their rye source, right? I've never bought any of their stuff, as they're much more expensive than I feel like paying. But they seem to move off the shelves pretty well. Am I correct that these are presumably Barton? Would this be a casualty of the rickhouse collapse? Are they going to start bottling their own product (I admittedly dont even know if they distil), or is this like one of the many rock bands that says their doing a final tour then mysteriously 5 years down the road they do a reunion tour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUfan99 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, JCwhammie said: This can only mean they lost their rye source, right? I've never bought any of their stuff, as they're much more expensive than I feel like paying. But they seem to move off the shelves pretty well. Am I correct that these are presumably Barton? Would this be a casualty of the rickhouse collapse? Are they going to start bottling their own product (I admittedly dont even know if they distil), or is this like one of the many rock bands that says their doing a final tour then mysteriously 5 years down the road they do a reunion tour? Barton rye is the rumored source? I haven’t heard that. What rye brands does Barton have? I’m having a CRS attack at the moment. The last batch does seem dramatic and very tater-baitish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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