cdcdguy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Feel free to make fun of me. I won't be offended. I was drinking 4 Roses single Barrel the other night. Then Makers CS. Both nice with some complexity. Then I had some HH6 90 proof Green label and a bit of VOBBIB. While the first two were very good, I so appreciated the basic flavors of the last two. For me cost isn't really a factor. I guess I really don't want a big complex bourbon. Why? Seems I prefer a Buger King hamburger over a Ruth Chris steak. I do enjoy some complex bourbon, Stag Jr. for example. But when I open a bottle oh JTSBIB I am wowed by the honestly good, well made basic bourbon. is there something wrong with my palette? Anyone else like this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thig Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Hard to beat a fresh grilled hamburger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I think you'll have a very difficult time finding anybody here who'd make fun of that sentiment. The big/bold/rare/weird stuff has its time and place, but nothing beats kicking back with a no-frills BIB. PS. I can think of so many burger joints that can easily beat Ruth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vosgar Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 You've found what you like and that's all that matters. Count your blessings that it's the basic stuff and not the other way around, your bank account thanks you! Personally, I like 'em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 As often as not, I will enjoy a 'basic' Bourbon such as you mention without feeling a bit underwhelmed by the direct and uncomplicated presentation. It can be very 'freeing' to just kick back and ENJOY rather than analyze and cogitate about a Bourbon, and those BIB's and other such no-frills offerings cry out for exactly this sort of session, don't they? ...While the higher end stuff often seems to ask for a more contemplative approach... which may just be social programming, and/or my respect for the cost and reputation of the higher-end, or rarer stuff. You've hit upon a true path to Bourbon Zen, my friend. Follow it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako254 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 11 hours ago, cdcdguy said: Feel free to make fun of me. I won't be offended. I was drinking 4 Roses single Barrel the other night. Then Makers CS. Both nice with some complexity. Then I had some HH6 90 proof Green label and a bit of VOBBIB. While the first two were very good, I so appreciated the basic flavors of the last two. For me cost isn't really a factor. I guess I really don't want a big complex bourbon. Why? Seems I prefer a Buger King hamburger over a Ruth Chris steak. I do enjoy some complex bourbon, Stag Jr. for example. But when I open a bottle oh JTSBIB I am wowed by the honestly good, well made basic bourbon. is there something wrong with my palette? Anyone else like this? If it tastes good to you then I’d say your palate works just fine. Double donus that your wallet will be better off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomLamb Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I think that's awesome. Even better when you can enjoy a pour and stay on budget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcdguy Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 9 hours ago, PhantomLamb said: I think that's awesome. Even better when you can enjoy a pour and stay on budget. And that's the cool thing. I can afford to buy higher end bourbon. But taste buds say it not necessary. I totally respect all who enjoy complex bourbons. I actually have a bottle of Pappy in my stock. I have had Stagg, and not the just the Jr. They are good. Maybe not worth the hype, but good. When I can afford more, why do I get excited over JTSBIB, HH6 90 or Mellow Corn? Has to be the roots, or I am am uneducated idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 6 hours ago, cdcdguy said: And that's the cool thing. I can afford to buy higher end bourbon. But taste buds say it not necessary. I totally respect all who enjoy complex bourbons. I actually have a bottle of Pappy in my stock. I have had Stagg, and not the just the Jr. They are good. Maybe not worth the hype, but good. When I can afford more, why do I get excited over JTSBIB, HH6 90 or Mellow Corn? Has to be the roots, or I am am uneducated idiot. Hey! As long as you're a happy uneducated idiot; who else cares (or should even have a vote), right? LIVE HAPPY, as much as possible, I say! ...And, it seems that's exactly what you're doing, cdcdguy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcdguy Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Richnimrod said: Hey! As long as you're a happy uneducated idiot; who else cares (or should even have a vote), right? LIVE HAPPY, as much as possible, I say! ...And, it seems that's exactly what you're doing, cdcdguy! I am happy! I have gone up and down and back on this bourbon journey over the last 5 to 10 years. A friend is a LS manager so I have gotten quite a few LE stuff. I think Weller 107 is fantastic! But then I say " hey, when are you getting the ETBIB in?" It was the BIBs that fit me. BIB should be basic in bottle! I love them. I must say this bourbon discovery, going on the bourbon trail several times, searching and winning and losing, has been one of the funest things I have done in my life so far. Edited November 13, 2018 by cdcdguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomLamb Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) It makes it more exciting for me because you can be on the hunt for something rare, but, at the same time, continue to discover bourbon that's readily available and cheap. Edited November 13, 2018 by PhantomLamb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dango Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Hambuger is made from the steak. Different shape is all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 So, would chopped steak/hamburger steak be equated with mid shelf offerings? Biba! Joe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dango Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, fishnbowljoe said: So, would chopped steak/hamburger steak be equated with mid shelf offerings? Biba! Joe I'll buy into that. midshelf is a pretty good sweet spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I'll say, I like regular BT better than ER, and VOB better than 1792. JTS Brown is a great pour. Like what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyfish Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 12 hours ago, fishnbowljoe said: So, would chopped steak/hamburger steak be equated with mid shelf offerings? Biba! Joe When Lee Iacocca, inventor of the Mustang, worked at Ford Motor Co. Bill Ford told him that the best burgers in the whole world were made right there in the company cafeteria. So Lee went to see the cook about it. Cook showed him how to make a burger for Bill. Take a prime steak and run it through the grinder. Make a patty and throw it on the grill. Of course, this was Bill Ford's burger, not the one that got served to other employees in the cafeteria. But Bill probably enjoyed feeling humble enough to appreciate a good ol' proletarian hamburger. I still lament the demise of good ol' AAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I like regular BT better than ER, and VOB BIB better than RR 1792. A really good steak can be a meal to remember, but not all steaks are good. Also, sometimes people don't know how to cook a steak. Hamburger is much more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) Sometimes I literally prefer a nice well-crafted younger 6 or 7 year bourbon over the higher shelf stuff. I'm referring to WT101, HH6BiB, Baker's, FC103 6yr, OE7yr101, and I'll now add the 5 year old JB Distiller's Cut to that. Just recently I had a tasting session whereby I had pours of several bourbons that ran the gamut all the way up to WT Decades and 4RSmBLE and still, somehow the JBDC kept speaking to me. Sometimes a slightly younger whiskey provides just what the taste buds are looking for. Edited November 16, 2018 by Kepler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vosgar Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, PaulO said: I like regular BT better than ER, and VOB BIB better than RR 1792. Right there with you. Barton used to always have VOB 86 and 1792 at their tastings and even the 86 is still better than the 1792, IMHO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvd99 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 There was a thread awhile back about bourbon zen - perhaps this is it - having experienced all the complex and LE bourbons and finding your way back to the basics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpfratn Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 There was a thread awhile back about bourbon zen - perhaps this is it - having experienced all the complex and LE bourbons and finding your way back to the basicsThis...but I’m still working to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiserhog Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) I too prefer hamburger to steak. If I buy steak it is a modest cut say WT Rare Breed or FRSB. I do want to try some RR10 and EHT small batch as well as 1792 small batch, I can't find VOB in my area. Is 1792 small batch even steak? When I do splurge, more often than not, I tend to buy single malt scotch or single pot still irish whiskey. Edited November 16, 2018 by kaiserhog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebo Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) I used to think I "needed" expensive/top shelf/limited bourbons to really appreciate what I was drinking. That was many years ago when I first got into "whisk(e)y". Now, I find that, like you, I prefer a good, well made bourbon over the pricier offerings.... although there is nothing wrong with indulging in those from time to time. These days, I find myself sticking with OGD BiB most of the time. It just hits the right spot for me. That said, I do love steak! Edited November 18, 2018 by ebo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcdguy Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 As the OP here. I was drinking Makers 46 last night. Lovely. I can appreciate something not basic. OF1920. Great stuff. But most times I don't want to do the hard work to appreciate really good complex bourbon. But I can be distracted opening mail and still enjoy a glass of JTSBIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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