Buffalo Trace discontinuing some bottlings?

[GreggB]

I am seeking confirmation, and more information, on a rumor I heard from a reliable and informed source.

The rumor is that Buffalo Trace is discontinuing Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve (the 13 year old OC), Hancock's President's Reserve, and Weller Centennial.

Does anybody know if this is true, and if so, why it is happening, or any other information about this?

[kickert]

It is my understanding Weller Centennial and OC PR have been discontinued for a while now. I have not heard anything about Hancock Reserve.

[smokinjoe]

It is my understanding Weller Centennial and OC PR have been discontinued for a while now. I have not heard anything about Hancock Reserve.

That's my understanding, too.

I'll add, that the only "news" I've heard regarding the Hancock was they were suppose to significantly lower the price of it from the $40's to under $30. I haven't seen this, however.

[ggilbertva]

You are correct, OCPR and Centennial have been discontinued.

[Virus_Of_Life]

I'd be curious to know if Hancock's is going to be discontinued. I really enjoy it in most instances, the barrel chosen by the place in Louisville, Liquor Barn I think(?), was an exception - it was weak. But most all standard Hancock's I have loved and would probably seek to lay some in the bunker if it was going away. If you hear anything more please advise. And as stated, yeah Centennial and OCPR are long gone, good luck finding any of them - especially the Centennial!

[GreggB]

Hi Christian --

I have received a bit more information.

It appears to be confirmed that the OC Proprietor's Reserve 13 year old and the Weller Centennial are discontinued.

No indication that the Hancock's is being discontinued, only the strange finding that it may be found in Kentucky exclusively at Liquor Barn in Louisville.

We do have Hancock's here in St. Louis in at least one store, although at the rather steep price of $60.

Gregg

[kickert]

No indication that the Hancock's is being discontinued, only the strange finding that it may be found in Kentucky exclusively at Liquor Barn in Louisville.

We do have Hancock's here in St. Louis in at least one store, although at the rather steep price of $60.

Gregg

[jburlowski]

The OCPR and the Weller Centennial are greatly missed. The Hancock not so much. It always struck me as an odd duck ---- particularly at the premium price point.

[funknik]

I found the one store in Maine that has the one remaining bottle of OCPR for $35 and I'm in debate about whether to pick it up or not -- it's about 40 min drive.

[GreggB]

I found the one store in Maine that has the one remaining bottle of OCPR for $35 and I'm in debate about whether to pick it up or not -- it's about 40 min drive.

Does it count as a "ghost whiskey"?

If so, then I would drive 40 minutes each way to get it.

Just be sure they are holding it under your name!!

[Josh]

Just to add fuel to the fire, the lit that BT sent to the MI Bourbon Hounds has Blanton's, Baby Saz, BT, ER 10 & WLW 12, but no Hancock, RHF, ELT or AA. I'm sure it means nothing, but on the other hand...

[funknik]

Does it count as a "ghost whiskey"?

If so, then I would drive 40 minutes each way to get it.

Just be sure they are holding it under your name!!

[GreggB]

They have tons of it at the Liquor Barn in Lexington as well. It is their hand picked bottles with their label on it and they are selling it for pretty cheap. Around $30 if I remember correctly.

[GreggB]

Just to add fuel to the fire, the lit that BT sent to the MI Bourbon Hounds has Blanton's, Baby Saz, BT, ER 10 & WLW 12, but no Hancock, RHF, ELT or AA. I'm sure it means nothing, but on the other hand...

[barturtle]

Well, what does it mean?

Does anyone here at SB have any information?

[Josh]

I don't know what it all means (I knew I should have taken more philosophy course is school), but I do know that it never hurts to have a couple of everything stocked away in the bunker.

If only my wife had this philosophy! :grin:

[Stickeng]

Oops, my mistake. I meant Liquor Barn in Lexington, not Louisville. I don't even know if there is a Liquor Barn in Louisville.

To be clear: it is my understanding that Hancock's PR is exclusively sold (in Kentucky) at Liquor Barn in Lexington.

Sorry about the confusion.

Hancock is available on Long Island and in Brooklyn. I purchased a bottle of

Hancock about two months ago in Suffolk County, LI.

I also have a bottle of the Weller Centennial bought on LI.

[cowdery]

I know every bourbon is precious, but Buffalo Trace has so many different bottlings it's hard to mourn too hard when they make some line adjustments. If you miss Weller Centennial, what's Old Rip Van Winkle? A 10-year-old Buffalo Trace wheated bourbon. Okay, the proof's different. I know, I know, I know.

The term "ghost whiskey" has been bouncing around. I don't know that I've ever used that term so I can only guess what it might mean, but I would make a major distinction between a discontinued label from a prolific, existing distillery and a product from a distillery that is no longer in operation, like Stitzel-Weller or Heaven Hill's original Bardstown plant. I tend to care about those, but discontinued labels not so much.

[gothbat]

As per BT Hancock's President's Reserve is still in production. Just thought I'd pass it on.

[GreggB]

The term "ghost whiskey" has been bouncing around. I don't know that I've ever used that term so I can only guess what it might mean, but I would make a major distinction between a discontinued label from a prolific, existing distillery and a product from a distillery that is no longer in operation, like Stitzel-Weller or Heaven Hill's original Bardstown plant. I tend to care about those, but discontinued labels not so much.

It is my understanding that a "ghost whiskey" refers to one from a distillery no longer in operation. At least, that's how I've seen the term used in discussion/descriptions of scotch whisky from closed distilleries.

If the term cannot/should not be applied to a discontinued item from an operating distillery, then we need a new term.

Suggestions?

[gblick]

It is my understanding that a "ghost whiskey" refers to one from a distillery no longer in operation. At least, that's how I've seen the term used in discussion/descriptions of scotch whisky from closed distilleries.

If the term cannot/should not be applied to a discontinued item from an operating distillery, then we need a new term.

Suggestions?

How about "discontinued whiskey"?

[Josh]

How about "discontinued whiskey"?

How about Zombie Whiskey?

[barturtle]

How about "vhiskey vou vill neva haf"?

[Lost Pollito]

Or... The " Anyone- caught- flippin- this- lost-treat- on e-bay- for- a ridiculous- price- will - be -punished - by -the -whiskey- gods" Whisky. :smiley_acbt:

[cowdery]

"Discontinued expression" would be the clearest term for the examples you gave.