Dusty Score or Bad Bottle

[Rughi]

...Regarding the Old Forester 86 pf, it's a good whiskey that get's better the older it is. I have a handle from 1980 that's very very good. I've had some from the mid 90's that were good....not great. So, check out the bottom of the bottle...

I might as well contract Greg to be a spokesman for me. His tastes are so very often right in line with mine. I posted in another thread about some tell tale signs of Forester eras.

I haven't opened an 86er for some time, but in writing this, I am reminded that the 86 and the Bond had (have?) distinctly different profiles other than just proof, and that I often preferred the profile of the 86er to the Bond.

Roger

[ggilbertva]

Roger,

I just read that other thread. Nice line up on those Old Foresters. I have handles and liters that I've picked up in my dusty hunting in MD and DC. The oldest one I have is 1959 BIB that is superlative, then I have 1980 and newer.

Just last night I drank some Old Forester BIB from 1980 and thoroughly enjoyed it. Now I'm thinking of taking a pour from the 86p handle.

Don't know about you, but sometimes just these types of discussions dictate my drinking selection that day. :cool:

correction: The handle stated above is 1984....not 1980....by bad.

[Rughi]

Just last night I drank some Old Forester BIB from 1980 and thoroughly enjoyed it. Now I'm thinking of taking a pour from the 86p handle.

Don't know about you, but sometimes just these types of discussions dictate my drinking selection that day. :cool:

I'm feeling thirsty for a certain strip-stamped 86er myself...

I think the oldest Bond I have right now was bottled in 71 or 73, but I've been fortunate enough to taste several from previous decades. It was all good.

You being fortunate enough to hang out with Howie, who knows what he may have brought around. Until recently I had a sample of a 52-59 Bond from a tasting he brought with him when he, Doug and I were batchin' it up in New Haven that was really, really satisfying. My notes from it were "satisfying rye tingle, most 'modern' of the group, least piney." Make you wonder what the others in the flight were?

Roger

[ggilbertva]

I'm feeling thirsty for a certain strip-stamped 86er myself...

I think the oldest Bond I have right now was bottled in 71 or 73, but I've been fortunate enough to taste several from previous decades. It was all good.

You being fortunate enough to hang out with Howie, who knows what he may have brought around. Until recently I had a sample of a 52-59 Bond from a tasting he brought with him when he, Doug and I were batchin' it up in New Haven that was really, really satisfying. My notes from it were "satisfying rye tingle, most 'modern' of the group, least piney." Make you wonder what the others in the flight were?

Roger

I was just at Howie's place about two weeks ago. He brought out an Old Fitz 86p from '78. Delicious is all I can say. Doug(dog) was in town not too long ago and brought 18 or so choice bottles of various bourbons with him (my fav was a Castle era Old Taylor BIB...Fantastic). It was a fun time. The Old Forester sample you had is probably from the same bottle Howie shared with me which is why I went on the hunt for a similar bottle. To say Howie has a silly/crazy collection would be an understatement.

[mozilla]

Really?

I participate in a whole bunch of different forums and I occasionally see a rant like this. If you really think about it... once forum has been in effect for a few years you could say that much of what is being discussed has at some point been discussed before. So should nobody post a new question in fear of asking something that may have been previously discussed? :bowdown:

Maybe a better avenue would be to simply ignore the post if it stresses you out that much? :cool:

[mozilla]

I search on this forum all the time, but sometimes you just want simple answers to simple questions in a timely manner, so thanks again to all those who helped.

[MJL]

Although, I tend to agree the search feature ought to be used first I think I have to point out an obvious problem with the search feature that may not be too obvious to those who have been here for some time.

There is an almost Bourbon-specific language in use on this site that is incomprehensible to the occasional poster who is looking to do research on a find. Look at any thread here and you will find a confusing array of acronyms, slang and pet words being used to describe product. The search feature fails in the light of this behavior. You will notice, when I found some Eagle Rare 101 proof in November I went out of my way to include the complete name of the product in my header and in the body of my post so as to allow a road map, via the search feature, to allow others to follow in my footsteps. Indeed, I even included close up, in depth photos of the bottles to illustrate what they look like for the benefit of those who might be looking at that post down the road to use it as a guide to find their own. As a relative newbie to this site I have spent hours trying to decipher posts as to their meanings. I notice there is even an acronym translation guide on this site to assist in this decryption. Personally, I think the use of standard English; rather than acronyms, abbreviations, pet words and slang to describe things here would make this site MUCH more usable to everyone involved; the initiated and uninitiated. Until then, rather than spending hours (like I have) learning the slang and pet words please do not be surprised when posters show up here confused by the search feature (like I was and often still am) and just post a question. Just my thoughts!

[smokinjoe]

Mo, while I agree with much that you say, and that we all could utilize the "search" function more, you really need to use the "Ignore" function, if you don't like a post from someone. First, it was your problem with the PR & C, and you ranted about that. Why you felt compelled to read it, and not ignore it when it irritated you so, I still wonder about. You opined that you only wanted the site to contain "bourbon" information and questions. Now, this is the second flaming you've given a new member in the last couple of months because their "bourbon" question didn't meet your muster. You may not want to waste your valuable knowledge on certain questions, so DON'T. Maybe, someone else will be more than happy to answer up. LET THEM. It's a discussion board. Let people discuss. If you've already discussed, or aren't interested in the topic, don't engage, and go back to doing the things that bring enjoyment to you.

[mozilla]

Thanks Joe,

I welcome eveyones input on this subject.

This is not about whether or not I like or don't like a post or thread. It is about behavior on the site.

Laziness and constant flooding of an area with threads is not acceptable on a community site, IMO. I am not all fired up...just concerned about behavior in the group.

Persons who refuse to get involved by reading and learning are not members in good standing.

Persons who find it necessary to continually post threads with hardly more than a link somewhere else...bring little to this community.

While, I can alway use the ignore button to alleviate my concerns, internally. It does not change the fact that it is still going on in reality.

Do I think these people should be flogged....No. Do I think that there should be some restraint and self moderation when posting a thread to the community as a whole YES.

And Yes, I come here for bourbon and the friends I have made here. I don't usually post in topics that don't interest me. I try not to waste the valuable time of the others on this site. Unlike, some who think we could not go more than five minutes without hearing one of their thoughts.

[callmeox]

Perhaps a PM to someone who violates your forum standards would be a better avenue for starters? Grandstanding in a thread only makes one look like the forum police (when there are those who actually have that job here).

Just IMO

[spun_cookie]

Anyone want to buy a Monkey?

[mozilla]

Perhaps a PM to someone who violates your forum standards would be a better avenue for starters? Grandstanding in a thread only makes one look like the forum police (when there are those who actually have that job here).

Just IMO

Give me a break...Grandstanding?

So, a person can't express concerns without being labeled a grandstander?

It's not always easy to get thorough thoughts across in writing short posts. So, I believe your assessment is a little premature.

[Skunk]

Anyone want to buy a Monkey?

I'd be afraid it would get into my bourbon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gptmuzBhdc&feature=related

The vBulletin search function can be frustrating IMHO. When I first got here I did a lot of searching, but mostly using google, e.g.:

"eagle rare" site:straightbourbon.com

ER101 site:straightbourbon.com

[craigthom]

The search function can be frustrating, and it can fail to pull up things that you just know in here somewhere.

I don't think anyone would complain about someone asking a question that they couldn't find the answer to.

[callmeox]

Give me a break...Grandstanding?

So, a person can't express concerns without being labeled a grandstander?

It's not always easy to get thorough thoughts across in writing short posts. So, I believe your assessment is a little premature.

Think of it in the context of making a mistake at work. Would you rather have someone approach you individually to point out the error would you prefer that you hear about it for the first time during a meeting with many others?

[polyamnesia]

well, back to the topic!:grin:

i wish I me me me NOW could find a bottle of this!

would love to hear the notes/impressions you had since you did pick it up...right?

[shyster512]

You may not want to waste your valuable knowledge on certain questions, so DON'T. Maybe, someone else will be more than happy to answer up. LET THEM. It's a discussion board. Let people discuss. If you've already discussed, or aren't interested in the topic, don't engage, and go back to doing the things that bring enjoyment to you.

My sentiments exactly.