Very Old barton

[JMac72]

I am in the process of making up an order for Binny's and was looking at the Very Old Barton 100 proof. I have read many good things about VOB especially on another bourbon website that includes pictures. However the picture on the bourbon website is different (gold/black label) than the one posted on Binny's website (all white).

Before I buy VOB I was wondering is it the same VOB as raved about or has it changed along with the labeling?

[OscarV]

The labels are different colors depending on the proof, which are 80, 86, 90 and 100.

[Josh]

I am in the process of making up an order for Binny's and was looking at the Very Old Barton 100 proof. I have read many good things about VOB especially on another bourbon website that includes pictures. However the picture on the bourbon website is different (gold/black label) than the one posted on Binny's website (all white).

Before I buy VOB I was wondering is it the same VOB as raved about or has it changed along with the labeling?

You mean the pictures here?

http://www.binnys.com/spirits/search/?advs=2&ast=31&asc=&astxt=barton

I see what you mean. VOB comes in 4 different proofs, 80, 86, 90 & BiB (100), all of which have different colors with gold trim. Light red/pinkish & black= 80, Green & black= 86, Dark Red & black= 90, White & white= BiB. I would recommend the 90 or the BiB, although I have gotten the 86 before when it was under $8.

I haven't personally seen any change in labels, I think lazy webmasters are probably to blame for the differences.

[JMac72]

thanks Josh....I will pick up a bottle or 2 of the VOB 100 and probably the Old Fitzgerald 1849...AAA 10 year is in the running as well......

[fishnbowljoe]

The VOB BIB is a good bourbon, especially for the price. It's not fantastic, but it's a nice solid bourbon. I just finished a bottle yesterday. IIRC I paid around $12 for it. Like I said, nice for the price. One of the better value bourbons out there. Enjoy. Joe

[jburlowski]

Joe is right... of the choices, go with the BIB.

[Josh]

Joe is right... of the choices, go with the BIB.

I actually think I prefer the 90 proof, but the BiB ain't too shabby either. I don't want raise expectations too high, but I've purchased bourbons that were twice as expensive that were half as good as the 90 or the BiB.

Haven't had the 1849, but AAA 10 y/o is very good too. Make sure it's the ten year, as opposed to the inferior 10 star.

[funknik]

I actually think I prefer the 90 proof, but the BiB ain't too shabby either. I don't want raise expectations too high, but I've purchased bourbons that were twice as expensive that were half as good as the 90 or the BiB.

Haven't had the 1849, but AAA 10 y/o is very good too. Make sure it's the ten year, as opposed to the inferior 10 star.

I agree that the VOB is a great deal and a great bourbon, but I have to give the edge to AAA 10 year . . . that stuff is a wolf in sheep's clothing: awesome bourbon at a very affordable price.

[ggilbertva]

Buy them both. Each is different. The common elements they share is great value and good bourbon.

[JMac72]

I actually think I prefer the 90 proof, but the BiB ain't too shabby either. I don't want raise expectations too high, but I've purchased bourbons that were twice as expensive that were half as good as the 90 or the BiB.

Haven't had the 1849, but AAA 10 y/o is very good too. Make sure it's the ten year, as opposed to the inferior 10 star.

I will. When I first heard of AAA 10 year and 10 star, I thought they were one in the same bourbon but from different time periods. I then found a blog which described the differences.....

Any other suggestions for value bourbon? Might as well make the order worth the while :grin:

[Josh]

I will. When I first heard of AAA 10 year and 10 star, I thought they were one in the same bourbon but from different time periods. I then found a blog which described the differences.....

Any other suggestions for value bourbon? Might as well male the order worth the while :grin:

If they have Heaven Hill White label BiB (6 y/o), that's a great value, but it's not widely available.

You can't go wrong with any of the following:

Four Roses

Old Forester Signature (or the standard 86 proof)

Old Granddad Bonded

Evan Williams, even in the current NAS version

Old Ezra 101 7 y/o

[Single-Barrel]

Don't want to sound like a broken record but for value ya' can't beat EW Black or the White label:cool:

[JMac72]

Oddly enough I haven't seen EW in Washington State (where I do most of my liquor shopping) however this little contract liquor store just stocked up with Old Ezra 7 year 101....I didn't notice it until after I stocked up on GD 12 and WT 101....

Can anyone describe the taste/palette?

[nblair]

I wanted to bump this thread instead of starting a new one.

I picked up my first bottle of VOB BIB when I saw my local store got some in stock. I really like this stuff, I can't believe it's only $11.99. Distilled by DSP-12 (Barton/Tom Moore) and bottled by DSP-24 (Glenmore, currently used by Sazerac for bottling and warehousing). So it's a Sazerac bottling, still 6 years old, still BIB. That's good news.

[rocky480]

OK, this thread brings up a question I have. I have a bottle of the gold/black lable VOB BIB which states on it "Bottled in Bond"

I haven't seen the new white label version, but it looks like where "Bottled in Bond" used to be, they're replaced with with "Hand Crafted"

So, is the new white labeled version BIB and has anybody compared the new and old labels to see if there's been any appreciable difference?

[nblair]

Mine is new white label, still BIB. On the neck it does say "Hand Crafted", but "Bottled in Bond" is in script above Very Old Barton. Haven't had the old to compare.

[Josh]

OK, this thread brings up a question I have. I have a bottle of the gold/black lable VOB BIB which states on it "Bottled in Bond"

I haven't seen the new white label version, but it looks like where "Bottled in Bond" used to be, they're replaced with with "Hand Crafted"

So, is the new white labeled version BIB and has anybody compared the new and old labels to see if there's been any appreciable difference?

They're both BiB. I don't think Saz has made any changes to any of the Barton bourbons. Or if they have, they haven't hit the market yet.

[Josh]

I wanted to bump this thread instead of starting a new one.

I picked up my first bottle of VOB BIB when I saw my local store got some in stock. I really like this stuff, I can't believe it's only $11.99. Distilled by DSP-12 (Barton/Tom Moore) and bottled by DSP-24 (Glenmore, currently used by Sazerac for bottling and warehousing). So it's a Sazerac bottling, still 6 years old, still BIB. That's good news.

Forgot to respond to this! The Glenmore bottling plant came with Tom Moore/Barton when Saz bought the brands. IIRC, Barton acquired it after Glenmore closed. They had one in Bardstown, but Glenmore was more modern.

[rocky480]

Mine is new white label, still BIB. On the neck it does say "Hand Crafted", but "Bottled in Bond" is in script above Very Old Barton. Haven't had the old to compare.

OK, good to know. Like I said, I haven't seen any of the new white label bottles, so I was going off what I could see online and I think I read it somewhere, but that was probably also based on the pictures where it doesn't look like BIB is on the label.

[rocky480]

They're both BiB. I don't think Saz has made any changes to any of the Barton bourbons. Or if they have, they haven't hit the market yet.

Barton isn't very widely avaialble around me and the prices are higher than the bargain that everybody here talks about, so I was wondering about the change. Like I wrote earlier, I haven't even seen the new labels in the market yet, so I suspect it's not a fast mover around here.

[nblair]

Forgot to respond to this! The Glenmore bottling plant came with Tom Moore/Barton when Saz bought the brands. IIRC, Barton acquired it after Glenmore closed. They had one in Bardstown, but Glenmore was more modern.

I see, so this still might not be a Sazerac release then.

[rocky480]

I see, so this still might not be a Sazerac release then.

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That's the same bottle that I have at home. The new ones which I thought looked like they dropped the BIB designation is shown in this shot from the Sazerac web site, so I guess my question about BIB vs. non-BIB still stands.

[callmeox]

Is it now time for a panic purchase of a case of VOB BiB?

[Gillman]

It does look different, unless the back label carries the BIB designation. Even if it doesn't, it may (possibly) meet the bonded requirement even though not stating so.

Barton's is excellent bourbon and still excellent value. I still have some 90. I like it on the rocks.

Gary

[rocky480]

Is it now time for a panic purchase of a case of VOB BiB?

This is along the lines of what I'm wondering, so I was trying to find out if anybody knew the story on the label change and did it mean that the VOBBIB I have recently become familiar with was also slated to change.

Unfortunately, VOBBIB is a little too spendy around me to justify a case purchase, but if I could get it at the prices everybody else posts, then I'd have probably already stashed a case.