theDon Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Does this piss anyone else off? Whether it's a collectible dusty or higher priced bottling, some stores insist on putting price tags directly on the label and when you try to remove them it tears a hole in it. I want my bottles to look nice when displayed on the bar, not have to hide them because the labels are f-ed up. I've even seen prices written on the label with red permanent markers, what's that about. Some stores have no clue. I know it's about what's in the bottle, but seriously STOP this barbaric practice liquor store owners. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclebunk Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Does this piss anyone else off? Whether it's a collectible dusty or higher priced bottling, some stores insist on putting price tags directly on the label and when you try to remove them it tears a hole in it. I want my bottles to look nice when displayed on the bar, not have to hide them because the labels are f-ed up. I've even seen prices written on the label with red permanent markers, what's that about. Some stores have no clue. I know it's about what's in the bottle, but seriously STOP this barbaric practice liquor store owners. Thank you!I'm with you, man. I find it annoying as hell too and have even said something to store owners once or twice. They simply looked at me like I was from Mars. But of all the surface area that you can attach a price sticker to a bottle, why directly on the label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harshest Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Word. Although I only run into this when I buy stuff at the supper market. The local liquor store doesn't put prices on the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDon Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 Word. Although I only run into this when I buy stuff at the supper market. The local liquor store doesn't put prices on the bottle.Well it's only legal to sell liquor in liquor stores in Texas. I just don't understand why they can't put prices on the shelves where they belong. That way if they need to chang the price they don't have to keep putting sticker after sticker on the bottle every time they jack up the price. Although I have gotten some bourbon cheaper by peeling off the new price tag to reveal an older lower price underneath. If they say the price isn't right I say I won't buy it if it's more and they usually let me have it for the old price. Is that so wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjomalle Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Although I have gotten some bourbon cheaper by peeling off the new price tag to reveal an older lower price underneath. If they say the price isn't right I say I won't buy it if it's more and they usually let me have it for the old price. Is that so wrong?I wouldn't brag about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDon Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 I wouldn't brag about this.Well they are wrong jacking up the price on old stock. You sell out the old stock at the appropriate price from when it was bought and when you get new stock, then you raise the price to current pricing. I'm just righting a wrong here. If they are going to be deceptive then I will too. At least if the prices are on the shelf, they could hide the fact that they are raising prices on older stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjomalle Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Well they are wrong jacking up the price on old stock. You sell out the old stock at the appropriate price from when it was bought and when you get new stock, then you raise the price to current pricing. I'm just righting a wrong here. If they are going to be deceptive then I will too. At least if the prices are on the shelf, they could hide the fact that they are raising prices on older stock.That is preposterous. Why would they not raise the price on their merchandise anytime they see fit? What could possibly be deceiving about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDon Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 That is preposterous. Why would they not raise the price on their merchandise anytime they see fit? What could possibly be deceiving about that?Just my opinion. It's not like the supplier went to them and said, "Hey you owe us x amount of money from that case of booze you bought from us 2 years ago because it costs more now." You are right they can raise prices anytime, but it's just greedy if it's old stock.And in my defense I only did that one time when a bottle of Old Charter 12 year had a $25 price tag on it and the price tag underneath was $20. That just ain't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Move to Ohio and you won't have to worry since the prices are on the shelf. There's also that little issue with is having no dusty bottles anywhere in retail, but what we have is unmarked by stickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorvallisCracker Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Move to Ohio and you won't have to worry since the prices are on the shelf. There's also that little issue with is having no dusty bottles anywhere in retail, but what we have is unmarked by stickers.Same thing in Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Where are all the free marketers?Except as restricted by law, retailers can price their merchandise however they want and change the prices as they see fit. The control is supposed to be the free market, wherein if a business gets too greedy a competitor will undercut them. This web site seems to be full of people who love the free market except when the price of bourbon is involved.People also persist in this naive assumption that prices are related to costs, when the relationship is indirect at best. Any good business person sets prices according to what the market will bear, period.I'm not talking about the original subject of the thread, which is geeky and kind of cute. I'm talking about the people who think it's wrong for retailers to increase prices on merchandise that's already on the shelf, which is an appropriate and normal business practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleblank Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 No one complains when they reduce the price 25% because it's been sitting on the shelf for 10 years. When clearing shelf space......costs can be completely ignored.Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I love this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDon Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 I love this thread.Well I do too now that Mr. Cowdery has posted a comment. I feel special, although I don't know what to say about him thinking I'm a geek (aren't we all) and kinda......cute?:grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hectic1 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Just my opinion. It's not like the supplier went to them and said, "Hey you owe us x amount of money from that case of booze you bought from us 2 years ago because it costs more now." You are right they can raise prices anytime, but it's just greedy if it's old stock.And in my defense I only did that one time when a bottle of Old Charter 12 year had a $25 price tag on it and the price tag underneath was $20. That just ain't right. Ever heard of anything called a carrying cost? Even though they bought those old dusties years ago it cost them money to have them sitting on the shelves...each year they sit there the more the bottle costs the liquor store... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorvallisCracker Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Ever heard of anything called a carrying cost? Even though they bought those old dusties years ago it cost them money to have them sitting on the shelves...each year they sit there the more the bottle costs the liquor store... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclebunk Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Them Swiffer refills ain't cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harshest Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I love how topics on this board seem to get off topic rather quickly. :stickpoke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLfarmboy Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 It is not what the product cost the retailer plus the mark up, it is what it will cost the retailer to replace the bottle + his mark up, at the time of the sale, that determines the correct pricing. Pealing the newer price sticker off is like theft. If I bought gas out of your fuel barrel, would you charge me what you paid for it this spring (when fuel prices were lower) or what it will cost you to replace it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLfarmboy Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Where are all the free marketers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDon Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 It is not what the product cost the retailer plus the mark up, it is what it will cost the retailer to replace the bottle + his mark up, at the time of the sale, that determines the correct pricing. Pealing the newer price sticker off is like theft. If I bought gas out of your fuel barrel, would you charge me what you paid for it this spring (when fuel prices were lower) or what it will cost you to replace it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjomalle Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Well first of all the guy wouldn't be able to replace Charter 12 and second he knew the price was wrong, but because he would rather sell the bottle than have me walk out without a sale he sold it at the old price anyway. His choice not mine. I think dusty bottles should be like cars. They aren't going to sell last years model car for full the price of this years model, even though the car is still technically "new."Also riddle me this. An experience dusty hunter taught me to look at the back of a shelf for dusty and to always check all the price tags, because sometimes not all of them get the mark-up. Is it wrong to take that bottle that didn't get the mark-up to the register and pay the lower price? Cause I've done that too. Are you going to call me a thief again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLfarmboy Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Well first of all the guy wouldn't be able to replace Charter 12 and second he knew the price was wrong, but because he would rather sell the bottle than have me walk out without a sale he sold it at the old price anyway. His choice not mine. I think dusty bottles should be like used cars. They aren't going to sell last years model car for full the price of this years model, even though the car is still technically "new."Also riddle me this. An experience dusty hunter taught me to look at the back of a shelf for dusty and to always check all the price tags, because sometimes not all of them get the mark-up. Is it wrong to take that bottle that didn't get the mark-up to the register and pay the lower price? Cause I've done that too. Are you going to call me a thief again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDon Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 First. A Car Dealer can mark up last year's model if they want to. It is unlikely since the market probably won't bear the price. Second. There is a difference between picking the bottle with the lower price and deviously changing the price marked on a bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enabler Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Several things: First, peeling the label off does not seem kosher to me. If you wanted to take it up and say that the old price was lower, would you give it to me? That is bargaining. Taking the label off, unless you tell them you did, smacks of trying to get away with something.In terms of pricing. In pricing theory, costs and age have little to do with pricing. Basically you should price at what maximizes your profit. Not necessarily on that item, but on your sales. Higher price but lower sales might be correct, or lower price higher sales. It really requires knowledge of a lot of other things. You could look to a few true aphorisms. "Whatever the market will bear" and "What is the value of gold? Whatever someone will pay for it."And in terms of honoring mistakes, I tend to disagree with that. If it is an honest mistake, then that is what it is. If a retailer mistakenly advertised cars at $25.00 instead of $25,000 due to a printing or decimal problem, should they be held to that even though they might go broke? I don't think so.And in terms of labels on the labels, they should be whipped on the steps of their club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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