whgaunce@alltel. Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Forgive me if this has been adressed before. I have tried to read all of the posts on this subject. My question is simple: How many bourbons are now available that are labelled "Bottled in Bond" I would like to set aside a special place for these in my display ( and for comparison) but I do not know how many there are. Any help?:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rughi Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Forgive me if this has been adressed before. I have tried to read all of the posts on this subject. My question is simple: How many bourbons are now available that are labelled "Bottled in Bond" I would like to set aside a special place for these in my display ( and for comparison) but I do not know how many there are. Any help?:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_elliott Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Like Roger said it all depends on where you live certain BIB are only available in limited locations. Like Tom Moore is only available in LA and TX. There are a ton of BIB that are the same thing with just a different label slapped on. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I can tell you the bottled in bond brands that I have seen or heard of lately available. From Heaven Hill; Heaven Hill 4 year old, Heaven Hill 6 year old, JTS Brown, JW Dant, Old Fitzgerald, Evan Williams (BIB available in some states), Rittenhouse (rye), Mellow Corn (corn whiskey).From Beam; Old Grandad. I think Buffalo Trace makes an Ancient Age BIB, and Barton makes a Very Old Barton BIB. There are probably others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew0715 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I can tell you the bottled in bond brands that I have seen or heard of lately available. From Heaven Hill; Heaven Hill 4 year old, Heaven Hill 6 year old, JTS Brown, JW Dant, Old Fitzgerald, Evan Williams (BIB available in some states), Rittenhouse (rye), Mellow Corn (corn whiskey).From Beam; Old Grandad. I think Buffalo Trace makes an Ancient Age BIB, and Barton makes a Very Old Barton BIB. There are probably others.Heaven Hill also puts out Henry McKenna 10yo BIB.Wild Turkey American Spirit is BIB.Old Forester Repeal might be, I know it was 100 proof.Knob Creek is also 100 proof, but does not say Bonded. I guess Beam pays the taxes on that upfront, rather than going through a Gov't Bonded Warehouse.Bonded doesn't mean as much today as it did 100+ years ago, at least regarding quality. There are enough government regulations on all alcohol to insure a decent minimum quality, and most distillers today are really trying to put out a good product, not trying to put one over on the public. IMO, YMMV, and any other disclaimers as necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarV Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 How many bourbons are now available that are labelled "Bottled in Bond" [QUOTE][/QUOTE]Get them while you can, BIB's are a dying breed.Old Grand Dad BIB is a good one and Henry McKenna BIB is also a 10yo single barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Old Potrero Hoatlings is also BIB, though it is a rye and not a Bourbon. It and Ritt 100 may be the only BIB ryes. They're the only ones I can think of anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Not to derail the thread, but wouldn't any 100 proof single barrel bourbon be bottled in bond by definition? (like FRSB) Perhaps the Four Roses warehouses don't have the "bonded warehouse" shingle hanging over the door.From the Wikipedia article on bonded spirits:JTS Brown BourbonJ.W. Dant BourbonHeaven Hill Bourbon (4 and 6 year old versioHenry McKenna 10 year oldOld Fitzgerald BourbonOld Grand Dad BourbonOld Portrero Hoatling's Rye WhiskeyRittenhouse 100 Rye WhiskeyWild Turkey American Spirit Bourbon And:Lairds Apple BrandyMellow Corn Corn Whiskey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res/st-or Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I love the Henry McKenna BIB... I can get those pretty easy here...Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDon Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I wish Texas was more BIB friendly. We do have Tom Moore BIB only available here and Louisiana, but we do not have HH 6 year, Colonel Lee BIB, JTS Brown BIB and probably other HH iterations I am not aware of.We also have OF (both fitz and forrester), Dant, OG and HH 4year. I can go across the border to the north and get the Mellow Corn, but like casino's, not here.There is also the now defunct Old Charter BIB if you can find it. Good luck on your BIB journey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rughi Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 ...Old Potrero Hoatlings is also BIB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I have Hotalings Essay 1996-2006 and while the juice may be 100 proof, single distillery, and single season I see nothing on the labels that says bond.Did you mean bond in the same sense as the Old Forester Signature - where it probably is but the distillery didn't want to label it as such?RogerBottled in Bond tis on the label in the photo on this page:http://www.anchorbrewing.com/about_us/oldpotrero_hotaling.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Old Bourbon Hollow BIB is the (other) Beam BIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew0715 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I have Hotalings Essay 1996-2006 and while the juice may be 100 proof, single distillery, and single season I see nothing on the labels that says bond.Did you mean bond in the same sense as the Old Forester Signature - where it probably is but the distillery didn't want to label it as such?Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I've attached the current flyer for this from their website. I was skeptical so I searched and found this that says, "Bottled In Bond" on the top right area of the label. Perhaps earlier releases were not.On the internet, two minutes is an eternity. :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasH Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Colonel Lee BIB has been discontinued for several years now. It was avaliable in nearly every liquor store in Ohio at one time. Another BIB that has come and gone from Ohio's stores is Kentucky Tavern BIB. I don't know if it is still available or not!Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rughi Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Bottled in Bond tis on the label in the photo on this page:http://www.anchorbrewing.com/about_us/oldpotrero_hotaling.htm Interesting. Attached is a photo of the 11yo. You can see Fritz added the bond statement sometime between the 11yo and the 15yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Not to derail the thread, but wouldn't any 100 proof single barrel bourbon be bottled in bond by definition? (like FRSB) Perhaps the Four Roses warehouses don't have the "bonded warehouse" shingle hanging over the door.A bond has to be 100 proof, at least 4-years-old, and the product of a single distillery and a single distiller made during a single distilling season. The "singles" are the reason you can have a 100 proof whiskey that is not bonded.Old Forester Signature, for example, is 100 proof but can't be labeled bottled-in-bond because it includes whiskey from different distilling seasons. (The year is divided into two seasons.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I understand the rules and Four Roses manufacturing process. What DQ's FRSB from being a bond?A bond has to be 100 proof, at least 4-years-old, and the product of a single distillery and a single distiller made during a single distilling season. The "singles" are the reason you can have a 100 proof whiskey that is not bonded.Old Forester Signature, for example, is 100 proof but can't be labeled bottled-in-bond because it includes whiskey from different distilling seasons. (The year is divided into two seasons.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I understand the rules and Four Roses manufacturing process. What DQ's FRSB from being a bond?I would imagine that, to them, Single Barrel>Bottled-in-Bond from a marketing standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarV Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I understand the rules and Four Roses manufacturing process. What DQ's FRSB from being a bond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Proof.BIB has to be 100prf and only a minimum of 4yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarV Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Ah ha, yeah I see no reason why 4R1B couldn't be labeled a BIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErichPryde Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 It could be. For some time Rock Hill Farms was labeled "Bottled in Bond," as it was a single barrel 100 proof whiskey. I think "BIB" just doesn't have the same connotation it once did with the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburlowski Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 WTAS was / is BIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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