boone Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 This issue comes up from time to time. http://www.lcni5.com/cgi-bin/c2.cgi?091+article+News+20100731103236091091007Yeah, there's black everywhere...I live 12 miles from the distilleres/warehouses. There's black mold here. I don't think the black mold here is caused from warehouses miles away. I think it's a natural thing like the moss that grows on the front side...the green mold on the rocks down by the creek...Angel share intensify the growth but I think it's there no matter what you do.What are they supposed to do? Shut down the warehouses and be gone with everthing? Stuck between a rock and a hard place...I'm curious to see what's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I wouldn't be surprized if increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and warmer than normal temperatures are increasing the fungus growth. These same coditions have made poison ivy grow faster and produce more volitile oil. I feel bad for the people suffering from alergies. I don't blame the distillers for something that occurs normally in nature. I heard by the Makers Mark distillery they have red stuff dribbling down over everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQ+Bourbon Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Help me out here. When bourbon pushes the angels share through the barrel, it's primarily releasing water and alcohol, right? Mold flourishes in a damp environment, but there must be other environmental factors. Given the volume of atmosphere between the home in question and the rickhouses, could it really affect the humidity at that home? Is the humidity of this home significantly higher than that a few miles away?My home is dozens of miles from any distillery and mold shows up on my siding every couple years. Perhaps I should knock on McCormick's door and ask what gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 This issue comes up from time to time. http://www.lcni5.com/cgi-bin/c2.cgi?091+article+News+20100731103236091091007What are they supposed to do? Shut down the warehouses and be gone with everthing? Stuck between a rock and a hard place...I'm curious to see what's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res/st-or Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Humidity is definitely a factor, and it is always extremely humid this time of the year in the south and midwest. However, if they were releasing water vapor in quantity, it may sink particularly in the morning before sunrise as fog. All kinds of freaky molds and moses can accelerate in those conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rughi Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Earlier this year I was at a 'meet the master distiller' event which had Ian MacMillan of Burn Stewart Scotch distilleries. He talked about the black mold being common at Scottish distilleries, but didn't seem to know it happened elsewhere as well.Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I saw a tv commercial recently advertizing a local business that cleans off black stuff like this growing on people's roofs. I have myself seen some buildings with the dark stains. It sounds like the same or similar fungus. The closest distilleries to us are about 100 miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_elliott Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I have been to KY and seen this mold growing on peoples houses around the distilleries. I wonder what would it cost the distillery to hire a team to go around and clean these houses on a regular basis. Say they hit each house once or twice a year that were with in so much distance of the distance of the warehouses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailor22 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Is it possible the recent flooding may have contributed to a higher than average breakout of mold. mildew and fungi in KY?Did any water from the flooding get into the lower floors of any barrel houses - particularly some of the ones next to the river? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 The definition of "news" is what's news to you.There's nothing new here, except that a few people are discovering this stuff for the first time and a couple of them are overreacting. I see no evidence to suggest that anything has changed or is more severe now than in the past. Kentucky's whiskey warehouses are significantly fuller now than they have been at any time in recent history, which could mean there's a little more mold now or that a couple of buildings that weren't affected a few years ago are now. Tom Moore is one of the few warehouse campuses that is close to a densely populated residential area. If somebody is complaining about mold on their garage, they probably live close to Tom Moore. When Barton owned it crews from the distillery would come around and clean it off for free sometimes, though that wasn't a formal or necessarily all-the-time thing. Some distilleries clean it off their own buildings, most don't bother. Some (Wild Turkey, Maker's Mark) just build dark-colored warehouses so it doesn't show. It covers the bark of most trees that are near warehouses and it doesn't hurt them. It has been known for as long as people have been barrel-aging large quantities of distilled spirits, which is about 150 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarV Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 It covers the bark of most trees that are near warehouses and it doesn't hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rughi Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 http://www.lcni5.com/cgi-bin/c2.cgi?091+article+News+20100731103236091091007Does this link load for others? I've tried 5 times at different times of day without success. I can infer the gist, but would like to read the link.Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Here's a discussion about it from a couple of years ago.http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5680&highlight=mold+barton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Does this link load for others? I've tried 5 times at different times of day without success. I can infer the gist, but would like to read the link.Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Does this link load for others? I've tried 5 times at different times of day without success. I can infer the gist, but would like to read the link.Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I saw a tv commercial recently advertizing a local business that cleans off black stuff like this growing on people's roofs. I have myself seen some buildings with the dark stains. It sounds like the same or similar fungus. The closest distilleries to us are about 100 miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Quick story:A woman lives adjacent to the Four Roses Cox's creek facility and has complained yearly about the black mold problem on her white house.Her solution?Sell that house to a relative and build another white house on the same property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Quick story:A woman lives adjacent to the Four Roses Cox's creek facility and has complained yearly about the black mold problem on her white house.Her solution?Sell that house to a relative and build another white house on the same property.Probably the same person who complains that they should move the deer crossing sign further away from her driveway because she doesn't want them crossing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Probably the same person who complains that they should move the deer crossing sign further away from her driveway because she doesn't want them crossing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Thank you. I'm here all week. Try the veal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepcycle Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Its not a mold, its a fungus. Fungus has a tendency to be opportunistic. Lives where nothing else will, so the alcohol may prevent other stuff from growing and having some defense mechanism that is alcohol stimulated. Check out this referencehttp://individual.utoronto.ca/jscott/projects/baudoinia/Microbe-March_2009.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Thank you. I'm here all week. Try the veal.Now that's funny! :slappin: Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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