Bourbon Myth from the KDA?

[sku]

The Kentucky Distillers Association has a new website which I read about on John Hansell's site today. As part of the site there is a list of facts about Bourbon which unforunately, perpetuates the myth of the Kentucky only label. Here is what they say: Kentucky is the only state with a federal classification for labeling purposes (Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey). Here's the link: http://www.kybourbon.com/images/uploads/Key_Facts_about_Bourbon_.pdf

This statement is a little more nuanced then what is usually stated (that Kentucky is the only state name that can have its name on a Bourbon label), but I still don't buy it. There is not a single mention of Kentucky in the regs. Other than that, I don't know what "federal classification" there is unless, like Tennessee Whiskey, they received some letter from TTB or one of the previous agencies verifying that KSBW is considered an official and unique product or some such thing.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[Enoch]

I have two bottles of Bowman Bourbon that say "Virginia Straight Bourbon Whiskey"

[jburlowski]

Maybe what they are saying is that only Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey can be labled as Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.

Either ignorance or silly puffery.....

[barturtle]

Here are the codes (this and the next several posts): feel free to look:rolleyes:

Class/Type Code

Description

0 ADMINISTRATIVE WITHDRAWAL

00 ADMINISTRATIVE WITHDRAWAL

000 ADMINISTRATIVE WITHDRAWAL

100 STRAIGHT WHISKY

101 STRAIGHT BOURBON WHISKY

102 STRAIGHT RYE WHISKY

103 STRAIGHT CORN WHISKY

109 OTHER STRAIGHT WHISKY

110 WHISKY BOTTLED IN BOND (BIB)

111 BOURBON WHISKY BIB

112 RYE WHISKY BIB

113 CORN WHISKY BIB

119 OTHER WHISKY BIB

120 STRAIGHT WHISKY BLENDS

121 STRAIGHT BOURBON WHISKY BLENDS

122 STRAIGHT RYE WHISKY BLENDS

123 STRAIGHT CORN WHISKY BLENDS

129 OTHER STRAIGHT BLENDED WHISKY

130 WHISKY BLENDS

131 BLENDED BOURBON WHISKY

132 BLENDED RYE WHISKY

133 BLENDED CORN WHISKY

134 BLENDED LIGHT WHISKY

137 BLENDED WHISKY

138 DILUTED BLENDED WHISKY

139 OTHER WHISKY BLENDS

140 WHISKY

141 BOURBON WHISKY

142 RYE WHISKY

143 CORN WHISKY

144 LIGHT WHISKY

146 WHISKY PROPRIETARY

147 SPIRIT WHISKY

148 DILUTED WHISKY

149 OTHER WHISKY

150 SCOTCH WHISKY

151 SCOTCH WHISKY FB

152 SCOTCH WHISKY USB

153 SINGLE MALT SCOTCH WHISKY

154 UNBLENDED SCOTCH WHISKY USB

157 DILUTED SCOTCH WHISKY FB

158 DILUTED SCOTCH WHISKY USB

160 CANADIAN WHISKY

161 CANADIAN WHISKY FB

162 CANADIAN WHISKY USB

167 DILUTED CANADIAN WHISKY FB

168 DILUTED CANADIAN WHISKY USB

170 IRISH WHISKY

171 IRISH WHISKY FB

172 IRISH WHISKY USB

177 DILUTED IRISH WHISKY FB

178 DILUTED IRISH WHISKY USB

190 OTHER IMPORTED WHISKY

191 OTHER IMPORTED WHISKY FB

192 OTHER IMPORTED WHISKY USB

197 DILUTED OTHER IMPORTED WHISKY FB

198 DILUTED OTHER IMPORTED WHISKY USB

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200 Distilled Gin

201 London Dry Distilled Gin

209 Other Distilled Gin

210 Gin

211 London Dry Gin

219 Other Gin

230 Gin - Flavored

231 Gin - Mint Flavored

232 Gin - Orange Flavored

233 Gin - Lemon Flavored

239 Other Gin - Flavored

248 Diluted Gin

250 Distilled Gin

251 London Dry Distilled Gin Fb

252 London Dry Distilled Gin Usb

258 Other Distilled Gin Fb

259 Other Distilled Gin Usb 2

60 Gin

261 London Dry Gin Fb

262 London Dry Gin Usb

268 Other Gin Fb

269 Other Gin Usb

280 Gin - Flavored

281 Gin - Mint Flavored

282 Gin - Orange Flavored

283 Gin - Lemon Flavored

289 Other Gin - Flavored

290 Other Gin

297 Diluted Gin Fb

298 Diluted Gin Usb

300 Vodka

301 Vodka 80-90 Proof

310 Vodka

311 Vodka 90-99 Proof

320 Vodka

321 Vodka 100 Proof Up

330 Vodka - Flavored

331 Vodka - Orange Flavored

332 Vodka - Grape Flavored

333 Vodka - Lime Flavored

334 Vodka - Lemon Flavored

335 Vodka - Cherry Flavored

336 Vodka - Chocolate Flavored

337 Vodka - Mint Flavored

338 Vodka - Peppermint Flavored

339 Vodka - Other Flavored

340 Other Vodka

348 Diluted Vodka

350 Vodka

351 Vodka 80-90 Proof Fb

352 Vodka 80-90 Proof Usb

360 Vodka

361 Vodka 90-99 Proof Fb

362 Vodka 90-99 Proof Usb

370 Vodka

371 Vodka 100 Proof Up Fb

372 Vodka 100 Proof Up Usb

380 Vodka - Flavored

381 Vodka - Orange Flavored

382 Vodka - Grape Flavored

383 Vodka - Lime Flavored

384 Vodka - Lemon Flavored

385 Vodka - Cherry Flavored

386 Vodka - Chocolate Flavored

387 Vodka - Mint Flavored

388 Vodka - Peppermint Flavored

389 Vodka - Other Flavored

390 Other Vodka

397 Diluted Vodka Fb

398 Diluted Vodka Usb

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400 Ur.s. Rum (white)

401 Puerto Rican Rum (white)

402 Virgin Islands Rum (white)

403 Hawaiian Rum (white)

404 Florida Rum (white)

409 Other Rum (white)

410 U.s. Rum (gold)

411 Puerto Rican Rum (gold)

412 Virgin Island Rum (gold)

413 Hawaiian Rum (gold)

414 Florida Rum (gold)

419 Other Rum (gold)

440 Other White Rum

447 Diluted Rum (white)

448 Diluted Rum (gold)

449 Domestic Flavored Rum

450 Foreign Rum

451 Cuban Rum White Fb

452 Cuban Rum White Usb

453 Cuban Rum Gold Fb

454 Cuban Rum Gold Usb

459 Other Foriegn Rum

461 Jamaican Rum White Fb

462 Jamaican Rum White Usb

463 Jamaican Rum Gold Fb

464 Jamican Rum Gold Usb

471 Guianan Rum White Fb

472 Guianan Rum White Usb

473 Dutch Guianan Rum Gold Fb

474 Dutch Guianan Rum Gold Usb

475 French Guianan Rum Fb

476 French Guianan Rum Usb

481 Martinican Rum White Fb

482 Martinican Rum White Usb

483 Martinican Rum Gold Fb

484 Martinican Rum Gold Usb

490 Other Foreign Rum

491 Other Rum White Fb

492 Other Rum White Usb

493 Other Rum Gold Fb

494 Other Rum Gold Usb

495 Diluted Rum White Fb

496 Diluted Rum White Usb

497 Diluted Rum Gold Fb

498 Diluted Rum Gold Usb

499 Imported Flavored Rum

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500 California Grape Brandy

501 California Brandy

502 California Dried Brandy

503 California Lees Brandy

504 California Pomace Or Marc Brandy

505 California Residue Brandy

506 California Neutral Brandy

509 Other California Brandy

510 New York Grape Brandy

511 New York Brandy

512 New York Dried Brandy

513 New York Lees Brandy

514 New York Pomace Or Marc Brandy

515 New York Residue Brandy

516 New York Neutral Brandy

519 Other New York Brandy

520 Other Domestic Grape Brandy

521 Brandy

522 Dried Brandy

523 Lees Brandy

524 Pomace Or Marc Brandy

525 Residue Brandy

526 Neutral Brandy

529 Other Brandy

530 Brandy - Flavored

531 Brandy - Apricot Flavored

532 Brandy - Blackberry Flavored

533 Brandy - Peach Flavored

534 Brandy - Cherry Flavored

535 Brandy - Ginger Flavored

536 Brandy - Coffee Flavored

539 Other Brandy - Flavored

540 Fruit Brandy

541 Apple Brandy

542 Cherry Brandy

543 Plum Brandy

545 Blended Apple Jack Brandy

548 Diluted Brandy

549 Other Fruit Brandy

550 French Brandy

551 Cognac (brandy)

Fb 552 Cognac (brandy)

Usb 553 Armagnac (brandy) Fb

554 Armagnac (brandy) Usb

558 Other French Brandy Fb

559 Other French Brandy Usb

560 Other Foreign Brandy

561 Italian Grape Brandy Fb

562 Italian Grape Brandy Usb

563 Spanish Grape Brandy Fb

564 Spanish Grape Brandy Usb

565 Portuguese Grape Brandy Fb

566 Portuguese Grape Brandy Usb

567 Greek Grape Brandy Fb

568 Greek Grape Brandy Usb

571 German Grape Brandy Fb

572 German Grape Brandy Usb

573 Australian Grape Brandy Fb

574 Australian Grape Brandy Usb

575 South African Grape Brandy Fb

576 South African Grape Brandy Usb

580 Other Foreign Brandy (cont.)

588 Other Grape Brandy (pisco, Grappa)

Fb 589 Other Grape Brandy (grappa) Usb

590 Foreign Fruit Brandy

591 Apple Brandy (calvados)

592 Cherry Brandy

593 Plum Brandy (slivovitz)

595 Blended Apple Jack Brandy

597 Diluted Brandy Fb

598 Diluted Brandy Usb

599 Other Fruit Brandy

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600 Cordials (fruit & Peels)

601 Fruit Flavored Liqueurs

603 Curacao 604 Triple Sec

605 Sloe Gin 606 Rock & Rye, Rum & Brandy (etc.)

607 Fruits & Peels Schnapps Liqueur

609 Other Fruits & Peels Liqueurs

610 Cordials (herbs & Seeds)

611 Anisette, Ouzo, Ojen

612 Coffee (cafe) Liqueur

613 Kummel

614 Peppermint Schnapps

615 Herbs And Seeds Schnapps Liqueur

616 Amaretto

619 Other (herbs & Seeds)

620 Cordials (cremes Or Creams)

621 Creme De Cacao White

622 Creme De Cacao Brown

623 Creme De Menthe White

624 Creme De Menthe Green

625 Creme De Almond (noyaux)

627 Dairy Cream Liqueur/cordial

628 Non Dairy Creme Liqueur/cordial

629 Other Liqueur (creme Or Creams)

632 Blackberry Flavored Brandy

638 Liqueur & Brandy

640 Specialties & Proprietaries

641 Whisky Specialties

642 Gin Specialties

643 Vodka Specialties

644 Rum Specialties

645 Liqueurs (whisky)

646 Liqueurs (gin)

647 Liqueurs (vodka)

648 Liqueurs (rum)

649 Other Specialties & Proprietaries

650 Cordials (fruit & Peels)

651 Fruit Flavored Liqueurs

653 Curacao

654 Triple Sec

655 Sloe Gin

656 Rock & Rye, Rum & Brandy (etc)

657 Fruits & Peels Schnapps Liqueur

659 Other Fruit & Peels Liqueurs

660 Cordials (herbs & Seeds)

661 Anisette, Ouzo, Ojen

662 Coffee (cafe) Liqueur

663 Kummel

664 Peppermint Schnapps

665 Herbs & Seeds Schnapps Liqueur

666 Amaretto

669 Other Herb & Seed Cordials/liqueurs

670 Cordials (cremes Or Creams)

671 Creme De Cacao White

672 Creme De Cacao Brown

673 Creme De Menthe White

674 Creme De Menthe Green

675 Creme De Almond (noyaux)

677 Dairy Cream Liqueur/cordial

678 Non Dairy Creme Liqueur/cordial

679 Other Liqueur (cremes Or Creams)

680 Flavored Brandy

681 Apricot Flavored Brandy

682 Blackberry Flavored Brandy

683 Peach Flavored Brandy

684 Cherry Flavored Brandy

685 Ginger Flavored Brandy

688 Liqueur & Brandy

689 Other Flavored Brandy

690 Specialities & Proprietaries

691 Whisky Specialties

692 Gin Specialties

693 Vodka Specialties

694 Rum Specialties

695 Liqueurs (whisky)

696 Liqueurs (gin)

697 Liqueurs (vodka)

698 Liqueurs (rum)

699 Other Specialties & Proprietaries

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700 Cocktails 48 Proof Up

701 Whisky Manhattan (48 Proof Up)

702 Whisky Old Fashioned (48 Proof Up)

703 Whisky Sour (48 Proof Up )

704 Margarita (48 Proof Up)

706 Gin Martini (48 Proof Up)

707 Gin Sour (48 Proof Up)

710 Cocktails 48 Proof Up (cont)

711 Vodka Martini (48 Proof Up)

714 Daiquiri (48 Proof Up)

716 Brandy Stinger (48 Proof Up)

717 Brandy Side Car (48 Proof Up)

718 Colada (48proof Up)

719 Other Coctails (48proof Up)

720 Cocktails Under 48 Proof

721 Whisky Manhattan (under 48 Proof)

722 Whisky Old Fashioned (under 48 Proof)

723 Whisky Sour (under 48 Proof)

724 Margarita (under 48 Proof)

725 Other Tequila-based Cocktails (under 48 Proof)

726 Gin Martini (under 48 Proof)

727 Gin Sour (under 48 Proof)

730 Cocktails Under 48 Proof (cont)

731 Vodka Martini (under 48 Proof)

734 Daiquiri (under 48 Proof)

736 Brandy Stinger (under 48 Proof)

737 Brandy Side Car (under 48 Proof)

738 Colada (under 48 Proof)

739 Other Cocktails (under 48 Proof)

740 Mixed Drinks-hi Balls Cocktails

741 Screw Driver

742 Collins

743 Bloody Mary

747 Egg Nog

749 Other Mixed Drinks Hi-balls Cocktails

750 Cocktails 48 Proof Up

751 Whisky Manhattan (48 Proof Up)

752 Whisky Old Fashioned (48 Proof Up)

753 Whisky Sour (48 Proof Up)

754 Margarita 48 Proof Up

756 Gin Martini 48 Proof Up 757 Gin Sour 48 Proof Up

761 Vodka Martini 48 Proof Up

764 Daiquiri 48 Proof Up

766 Brandy Stinger 48 Proof Up

767 Brandy Side Car 48 Proof Up

768 Colada (48 Proof Up )

769 Other Cocktails (48 Proof Up)

770 Cocktails Under 48 Proof

771 Whisky Manhattan Under 48 Proof

772 Whisky Old Fashioned Under 48 Proof

773 Whisky Sour Under 48 Proof

774 Margarita Under 48 Proof

776 Gin Martini Under 48 Proof

777 Gin Sour Under 48 Proof

780 Cocktails Under 48 Pr(cont)

781 Vodka Martini Under 48 Proof

782 Vodka Sour Under 48 Proof

784 Daiquiri Under 48 Proof

786 Brandy Stinger Under 48 Proof

787 Brandy Side Car Under 48 Proof

788 Colada (under 48 Proof )

789 Other Cocktails (under 48 Proof)

790 Mixed Drinks-hi Balls Cocktails

791 Screw Driver

792 Collins

793 Bloody Mary

797 Egg Nog

799 Other Mixed Drinks Hi-balls Cocktails

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80 Table Red And Rose Wine

81 Table White Wine

82 Table Flavored Wine

83 Table Fruit Wine

84 Sparkling Wine/champagne

85 Carbonated Wine

86 Vermouth

87 Dessert Flavored Wine

88 Dessert /port/sherry/(cooking) Wine

89 Dessert Fruit Wine

900 Malt Beverages

901 Beer

902 Ale

903 Malt Liquor

904 Stout

905 Porter

906 Malt Beverages Specialities - Flavored

907 Cereal Beverages - Near Beer (non Alcoholic)

909 Other Malt Beverages (beer)

920 Other Spirits

921 Neutral Spirits - Grain

922 Neutral Spirits - Fruit

923 Neutral Spirits - Cane

924 Neutral Spirits - Vegetable

925 Neutral Spirits - Petroleum

926 Bitters - Beverage 928 Grain Spirits

929 Other Spirits

931 Sake

934 Sake - Domestic Flavored

940 Non Alcoholic Mixes

950 Malt Beverages

951 Beer

952 Ale

953 Malt Liquor

954 Stout

955 Porter

956 Malt Beverages Specialities

957 Cereal Beverages - Near Beer (non Alcoholic)

959 Other Malt Beverages

970 Other Spirits

971 Neutral Spirits - Grain

972 Neutral Spirits - Fruit

973 Neutral Spirits - Cane

974 Neutral Spirits - Vegetable

975 Neutral Spirits - Petroleum

976 Bitters - Beverage*

977 Tequila Fb

978 Tequila Usb

979 Mezcal

980 Mezcal Fb

981 Sake - Imported

982 Mezcal Us

984 Sake - Imported Flavored

990 Non Alcohol Mixes

[barturtle]

There we go...I've yet to see the word "Kentucky" in there, but feel free to double check for me.

[Josh]

There we go...I've yet to see the word "Kentucky" in there, but feel free to double check for me.

[CorvallisCracker]

138 DILUTED BLENDED WHISKY

[barturtle]

Good grief, man. You need to get back to work and soon! Reminds me of when the wife was on maternity leave. She spent her time coming up with complex diagrams on how to win games on The Price is Right.

[ErichPryde]

I can't believe you made Scott say OMG! :slappin:

[cowdery]

"Kentucky is the only state with a federal classification for labeling purposes" is a myth that dies hard. What I usually do, and will do with KDA, is ask for a citation. Let them find out for themselves that it isn't true.

[barturtle]

975 Neutral Spirits - Petroleum

So that's PeNiS? right?

[wadewood]

the must be reading this site. They have updated their "key facts" and removed that information.

[sku]

the must be reading this site. They have updated their "key facts" and removed that information.

Looks like it's still there to me.

[wadewood]

Looks like it's still there to me.

? yes your original link still works, but if you go to KDA site and then look at new "facts" info link, I think it has been updated.

[cowdery]

I commend them for recognizing and correcting their mistake. Good for the KDA.

[callmeox]

I commend them for recognizing and correcting their mistake. Good for the KDA.

From what I can tell, both versions of the PDF were generated on the same day in September. Perhaps they caught the mistake early on but published the incorrect one.